> Subject: Re: DSLRs
>
>
> > ================================
> > Point I was making is if you want to go out and take a bunch of photos
> > IN THE FIELD, you'll need at least one or more microdrives which
> > are expensive and fragile. With film cameras all you need is a box
> > full of rolls of film.
> > =================================
> >
>
> Then use a compact flash card. By the time I'm done writing this, they'll
> be bigger and cheaper. And reusable.
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If youre going to be saving your digital files in the RAW
mode, it eats up memory fast. Youll need some very expensive
microdrives which are fragile, or CF cards which are also
expensive when large qtys are needed...
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>
> > Spotmatic batteries last about a year, DSLR batteries last
> about an hour.
> > Point I was making is if you want to go out and take a bunch of photos
> > IN THE FIELD, you'll need MULTIPLE expensive rechargable batteries....
> > And some of these are custom weird types that are hard to locate....
> >
>
> I can fill a flash card with two batteries that cost $39 each,
> and then they
> recharge at the end of the day. No waste.
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Your assuming that the batteries last forever. They dont.
I've already got two weak ones for my digital panasonic
P&S in only a year and a half. Suckers cost $60 each
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> On the Optio, for example, I
> went to shopping.yahoo.com and found a dozen or so retailers for the
> batteries.
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Yeah that's now, but what about 10 years from now??
Those batteries will get harder to find especially
the ones especially made for 1 model of camera
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Who cares? It's just a consumable... If I run out of
> battery, I'm done- if you run out of film, you're done.
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Yeah, but I can take as many rolls of film as I need.
You cant with a DSLR unless you go out and buy a bunch
of expensive rechargable batteries and have time to
charge them 1 at time on your single charger, unless
of course you buy a bunch or expensive chargers, IF
you can find them. Face it, That kind of battery dependence
S U C K S
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It's just a
> different technology and you just have to plan appropriately!
>
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You mean SPEND appropriately on a bunch of batteries
and possibly chargers too IF you can find them years from now.
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> > > Nope. I'll argue it's less complex. No film transport, so
> there's less
> > > mechanicals than a film slr.
> > >
> > ======================================================
> > Do you really think a DSLR is "simpler" than a
> > spotmatic? I disagee. NO electronics to fail
> > or LCD displays to wear out, let alone the
> > issue of sturdiness. I bet it takes WAY
> > less shock to ruin a DSLR over a spotmatic.
>
> Solid state doesn't fail.
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Right, and windows 3.1 never crashed. DSLRs have far more
points of failure than a simple spotmatic does. Electro-mechanics
and mechanics can be FAR more reliable than complex
solid state. Ever have a pair of pliers fail? They
have moving parts too :)
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> LCD wearing out? There's no moving
> parts, and
> backlights are LED, not cold cathode.
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I've seen LCD and LED displays go flaky on
many products over the years, they are not
infalible. LCD are also fragile, they can
crack rather easily if impacted
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> It's not like there's a bunch of
> passive components waiting to get wanked by humidity/temp/etc. in these
> modern designs- we're talking a number of large ICs that are
> fully sealed on
> a thin film flexible circuit board. Would you want a mechanical or
> electronic pacemaker? :-)
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No but, Id prefer a electro-mechanical heart over one
that depended on a computer/software :)
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>
> > ======================================================
> >
> > > > 5. SPOTTY AND EXPENSIVE REPAIR FACILITIES
> > > > LOCAL SHOPS PROLLY WONT TOUCH THEM
> > > >
> > >
> > > And the local shop can fix my MZ-S's (or even a ZX-M) or someone
> > > else's EOS3
> > > electronics, etc.? Nope.
> > >
> > ============================================================
> > I can still get my spotmatics fixed locally after
> > 30 odd years, will that be true for a DSLR?
>
> > I seriously doubt it. This brings up the
> > parts issue. How many components from todays
> > DSLR even be available in 10 yrs????
> >
> > I can buy a junk spotmatic for <$20 and get
> > all the parts I need, not true for a DSLR
> >
>
>
> But you can't buy a new spotmatic, and my argument is that the
> DSLR is going
> to be more reliable then a comparable, available film SLR.
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Arent there any mechanical film SLRs left? I think
the Nikon FM3A is. If my life depended on getting a shot
would rather have that than a DSLR
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> MZ-S
> vs. MZ-D,
> or D60 vs ZX-M- whatever.
>
> Pentax isn't going to stay in business because of a large population of
> people exchanging camers on ebay.
>
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That not the issue we were talking about, I was just bringing
up some of the hidden costs ( and disadvantages) of going
to a DSLR vs. film SLR.
JCO
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