Thanks for the synopsis Frank! For a variety of reasons having to do with
the LAN I've set up at home, the message you replied to actually sat in my
computer for a week, germinating or whatever, before suddenly and with no
warning springing forth last night. Meanwhile (a) I have been to Ottawa for
a conference, where I saw the countryside from the plane as we landed, the
canal from the cab as we went downtown, and the city from the window of my
hotel (i.e., good conference, wasted trip otherwise); and (b) I have sampled
some of the accumulated PDML mail. I would say your description is about
right on.

Stan

 on 10/25/02 7:31 PM, frank theriault at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hey, Stan,
> 
> Save yourself the trouble of going through all 2000+ posts.  Here's a
> synopsis:
> 
> Issue #1:
> 
> Someone said:  "I bet the Pentax people read this list sometimes"
> Brad said:  "Hey Pentax, where's our (insert bad word) DSLR!
> Someone else said:  "Hey Brad, don't swear!"
> Brad said"  "I'm sorry."
> A different someone else said:  "Hey Brad, I'm offended by your swearing."
> Brad said:  "I already said I'm sorry."
> Another person said:  "Brad, you shouldn't swear."
> 
> A week long flame war breaks out, that even went as far as someone setting up
> a
> new e-mail account under Brad's name, attributing posts to him that weren't
> his.  The whole thing was unseemly in the extreme...
> 
> Issue #2:
> 
> Chaso:  "There's this exhibit in Texas by a guy using Medium Format, and he
> used
> Photoshop to clean up his images"
> 
> Wheatfield:  "Photoshop is a cheap and dirty way of cleaning up what should
> have
> been done properly by the photographer behind the viewfinder in the first
> place."
> 
> Instantly the thread breaks into 35 OT threads about such things as Photoshop
> vs. dodge and burn,  negatives are real and digital isn't, admissability of
> negs
> versus digital in a court of law, some sort of phenomenological versus
> post-modernist "can we really trust our senses and how can we observe the
> world
> without that very observation changing what we observe?" discussion, when and
> what kind of violence can we jokingly refer to without offending some, etc.
> etc.  Oh yeah, and Norm Baugher said, "I think my fridge light stays on when I
> close the door".
> 
> Please note that I'm paraphrasing liberally (despite the quotation marks),
> and,
> I my tongue is planted firmly in my cheek right now, so ~please~ no one be
> offended - this is an attempt at humour (gotta cover all the bases with this
> post <g>).
> 
> So Stan, delete all those messages, and get some sleep.  Sounds like you need
> it.  Glad you had a good trip!
> 
> regards,
> frank
> 
> Stan Halpin wrote:
> 
>> Cotty - thanks for the photos and the fine story telling. I am just back
>> home this evening and am faced with 2000+ messages on PDML (mostly some fuss
>> about brad doughboy and/or about the dslr). Am off again for most off this
>> week, it will be sometime before I can get my photos from Camden Lock
>> developed, printed, scanned . . .
>> 
> 
> --
> "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
> fears it is true." -J. Robert
> Oppenheimer
> 
> 
> 

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