Hey Frank,

I know they would not, I know of several in the middle of a switch, etc.
However, as I said, I like my gear a lot.  As far as service goes?  They
stink, and are fools.  However, I'd rather not pay extra for a name or a
special feature I'll never use.  Quite a dilemma eh? ;-)  While you could
call it complaining, it is also showing the lack of service in various areas
for Pentax.  That's an on-topic.  However to quote unnamed and unknown
sources who have no doubt blocked me, but a great cry rang out when I and
others said stop the DSLR BS.  They said, "Then the Pentax people silently
watching the list will not know that we are dis-pleased with having no DSLR"
Not an exact quote, but quite close.  Anyhow, the same could be said for my
problem here.  If I don't point out that they lack in service in some
places, and don't do any real sort of advertising.  They won't change.

I'm happy with the Pentax gear (that I have!!! :))

Regards,

Brad
----- Original Message -----
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)


> Brad,
>
> I really don't think anyone here would think anything one way or t'other
if you
> sold off your Pentax gear and bought another system.  People do it all the
> time.  I can think of a couple of regular contributors here that have sold
off a
> goodly amount of their Pentax systems over the last few months
>
> If you're unhappy with Pentax, either the equipment or the service, or
both, you
> should get into a system that suits your needs.  Complaining to this list
will
> not solve your photographic problems (not that I have a problem with your
> venting here).  Getting into a system that you're happy with will.
>
> regards,
> frank
>
> Brad Dobo wrote:
>
> > I may die of shock if I saw Pentax advertising here.  Especially on TV!
> >
> > Yes, I'm up that dirty creek.  I'm not too happy about it and honestly
want
> > to take everything and sell it and save and get a Nikon or Canon DSLR.
No
> > more bull.  If Pentax can't meet needs, it won't survive.  I don't care
if
> > it's local, Pentax Canada, or Pentax.
> >
> > What I just laugh my rear off at is that they are coming out with a new
35mm
> > SLR?  LOL  Just when everyone is going digital...that's Pentax for ya.
Was
> > the MZ-S (in sales, not performance) not enough of a flop?  Looks to me
like
> > they are digging their own grave.
> >
> > Now, ya all hear this. :-)  Just because I'm ticked at Pentax doesn't
mean
> > I'm insulting the group or individuals.  So no flames, please.  I'm
still a
> > Pentax owner, so here I am.  I still will need help with it, so here I
am.
> > Did I make a wrong choice right from the beginning?  I am starting to
think
> > so.  Unless Pentax gets their act together.  I happen to like what I've
been
> > able to get my hands on.  They make it hard however.
> >
> > Just a random thought, this Pentax DSLR, coming out in what...the PCA?
Or
> > something.  Anyhow, what if it doesn't come out, everyone had all these
same
> > reactions up to and a couple days past the Photokina.  If they don't
come
> > out with a DSLR, what will you do?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Brad Dobo
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Shaun Canning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:15 PM
> > Subject: RE: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)
> >
> > > Isn't it funny how different distributors behave in different places?
> > Pentax
> > > is really getting pushed in the media here at the moment, and in
> > particular
> > > the Optio 330 and 430's and binoculars. Mainly because it is spring,
and
> > > that means horse races.... The Melbourne Cup, Caulfield Cup, Cox Plate
etc
> > > etc. Now this may be an entirely Victorian phenomenon, because of the
> > spring
> > > racing carnival, but I haven't noticed any other manufacturers
advertising
> > > at all. I'm talking mainstream prime-time TV ads here.
> > >
> > > As for Brad's dilemma. Mate your really up s*&t creek unless you want
to
> > > purchase online, or at least travel to somewhere that has the parts
you
> > > want. Same goes for the ads mentioned above, distributors are funny
> > things.
> > > There's a box of cable releases less than 75 kilometres from my
> > door.....yet
> > > you can't get one for love nor money.
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > Shaun Canning
> > > PhD Student
> > > Archaeology Department
> > > La Trobe University, Bundoora,
> > > Australia, 3086.
> > >
> > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Phone: 0414-967 644
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brad Dobo [mailto:brad.dobo@;rogers.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2002 12:01
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Chris Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:16 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Brad Dobo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Seriously.  I am not going to pay USD and all the other hassles to
get
> > > this
> > > > > product, I have never done so and will never do so.  I'm old
fashioned
> > > yet
> > > > > young.  I will not give out Visa numbers on the Internet nor over
the
> > > phone.
> > > > > My mother is a bank manager and you'll be appalled at the stuff
that
> > > happens
> > > > > with fraud.  It also makes it more expensive and harder to return
if
> > > > > something is screwy.
> > > >
> > > > Why not? My experiences have been fast, fun and easy. I've ordered a
> > > > $20USD Light bulb for my enlarger, it worked fine (it shipped el'
> > > > cheapo ground too!). I've spent $2000CAD online at dell's website to
buy
> > a
> > > > new computer.  Millions do it daily. so whats the big deal? I like
to
> > keep
> > > > my money in Canada, but if I can't source something locally, why
stress
> > > > out about it?
> > >
> > > I told ya! ;-)  I simply will not on principle and cautiousness
> > >
> > > > > So, my only other alternative.  I could order it from the say 10
> > stores
> > > > > (some are not real camera stores) here in London, and area, and
they
> > > would
> > > > > all put their orders into the same place 'Pentax No-Canada'.  I
don't
> > > know
> > > > > how I'd go to dealers across the province to get this (seeing if
each
> > > one
> > > > > had it in stock).  The gas would cost more than their most
expensive
> > > lens,
> > > > > and by the time I got home with my cable, a year would have past
and
> > my
> > > > > order from the store arrived!  ;-).  If Pentax Canada cannot get
> > > something
> > > > > so simple, I think Pentax has a real problem at least here in NA.
If
> > > they
> > > > > want to sell the MZ-S here, they should be selling it's
accessories.
> > > They
> > > > > should at least have them in stock.  I know this is a bad market
area
> > > for
> > > > > them, so I understand when my store (or the others) does not have
them
> > > on
> > > > > the shelf because they simply won't sell.  But I would expect,
unless
> > > > > ordering the 2000mm mirror or similar, that Pentax Canada would
keep
> > > stock
> > > > > on these items.  It's a lousy release cable.  The other 3 I am
told by
> > > my
> > > > > store, takes 1-5 days to get even the strangest items.  Pentax, at
> > least
> > > in
> > > > > NA, is dying I'm afraid (or maybe just Canada)  Remember, Pentax
> > Canada
> > > is
> > > > > one location in the largest country in the world.
> > > >
> > > > Pentax Canada has an office in Vancouver too.  Call.  I find it hard
to
> > > > belive that Pentax is dying.  I see so many new MZ bodies at
different
> > > > events, parades, hockey games, etc.  I see a good mix or Nikon,
Canon,
> > and
> > > > pentax, even a few Minoltas.  Maybe its just London, ON. Have you
tried
> > > > calling any stores in Toronto?  I've had good experiences with
McBain
> > > > Camera in Edmonton, thats in Canada too.
> > >
> > > Does Vancouver have an office or a warehouse?  Still, I won't be
getting
> > > them from there.
> > >
> > > > http://www.mcbaincamera.com/SLR/pentax/bodyAcc.htm
> > > >
> > > > They even have the CS-130 listed.  $120 CAD
> > >
> > > First, that is $15 more than my store, and I'm not about to drive to
> > > Edmonton.  (You already know I won't do Visa, etc over 'net or phone.)
> > >
> > > > It really does sound like "Your store" is giving you the run around.
It
> > > > may be too much work for them to bother, or they just don't sell
enough
> > > > Pentax gear.  I see lots of Pentaxes in BC, maybe thats the
difference.
> > >
> > > Well, it's not my store.  The reason the owner sorta suggested the
> > dropping
> > > of Pentax (and a big camera store here already has) is because of the
few
> > > customers they get for Pentax, they have these same problems, like me.
> > They
> > > cannot get Pentax Canada to ship something that is not in the
warehouse,
> > and
> > > they have taken abuse and beatings from peeved off customers and while
he
> > > didn't say it, he sorta said, they didn't need the hassle and it
wasn't a
> > > money maker for them  (Linden Photo as well, they are considering
dropping
> > > Pentax, so a young clerk told me, whether that is true or not...who
knows.
> > > Interesting about Linden is that when my store didn't have the
AF360FGZ in
> > > stock, I called them and they had it.  An anomaly)
> > >
> > > > - Chris
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > >
> > > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> > > > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > > >
> > >
>
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pessimist
> fears it is true." -J. Robert
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