> for general portaiture and landscapes > which of these is the better lens > which is better optically
Personal opinion: The A* 85/1.4 is the best overall for both, between the two 85/1.4's. (The FA* 85/1.4 makes a very fine portrait lens, probably as good as the A*, although different, but it might not be quite as good for scenics.) There's a bit of "apples and oranges" in your question, though, since 85mm is ~not~ the same as 77mm (although the FA* 85/1.4 tends to have a FL somewhat less than 85mm at closer focusing distances - see http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/85compar/85boston.jpg and especially http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/85compar/85bricks.jpg . Sorry, I've never used the 77 Ltd. Fred
