Vic,

Quite reasonable rambling.  I would add to it two things.

1) The other factor of zooms vs. primes is purely what one enjoys
using.  Much like saying that a PZ-1p or MZ-S can run circles around a
SuperProgram or MX.  Some just prefer the style and handling and
subsequent flow that goes with one or the other.  I personally find
that using a prime helps me (forces me) to be more conscientious about
my shots (including better technique).  This doesn't mean that the
zoom couldn't be used identically, just that I tend to be more sloppy
and quick.  Ideally it would be nice to have a set of primes and good
zooms and pick the right tool at the right time.  Unfortunately for
me, I can't justify both - too many other things taking up my funds.

2) Faster lenses as you say gives you the ability to see in the
viewfinder easier.  When I shoot weddings, I find frequently that
receptions are in very dim lighting.  Focusing is a real issue and any
speed here helps - not shooting aperture, just viewing aperture.
However, the other big advantage of a faster lens is the ability to
have a greater range of DOF control.  There are times when I like to
be able to open up to blur the background more.

3) Sorry, just thought of another.  Many times there are compromises
in zooms where closest focusing is not anywhere near the equivalent
prime.  Not always true, but quite often.


Bruce



Thursday, November 14, 2002, 9:08:08 AM, you wrote:

Pac> Brad I agreed with you that I would buy the 20-34/4 over the 24/2 but not 
Pac> because they are equal and that modern zooms are equal to primes. 
Pac> Life is a compromise and so too are lenses. The problem photographers get 
Pac> into (I think) is getting too anal about the quality of the lenses. You can 
Pac> have the greatest lens in the world but if you don't use it, it is not much 
Pac> good. (Bear with me here folks)
Pac> An average performing lens in the hands of a capable photographer with good 
Pac> technique will result in better pictures than a great lens with poor 
Pac> technique. In addition, if you are taking pictures for yourself, or even for 
Pac> publication at no bigger  than say 11 by 14, I don't think it really matters. 
Pac> Good technique is the more important factor than the quality of the lens.
Pac> Okay, the 24/2  will give a better image (all else being equal) than the 
Pac> 20-35f4. But I doubt anyone could really see the difference anyway so who 
Pac> cares.
Pac> Now the zoom is much more useful than the straight 24, so in my book it wins 
Pac> out. I will use it more than the straight 24 and I wouldn't care about the 
Pac> slight increase in quality I would get from the 24mm. 
Pac> But to say the zoom is equal to the 24 is going too far. It might be as sharp 
Pac> but distortion would likely be more, contrast probably would not be as good 
Pac> etc etc. Does it matter, in 95 per cent of the time no, in 5 per cent --maybe.

Pac> Now the other issue is photographers always wanting the best possible lens. 
Pac> Why? Because we feel that, all else being equal, we do not want inferior 
Pac> images because we cheaped out on the glass. It's a good argument providing 
Pac> the photographer's technique is flawless. If technique is not perfect we 
Pac> might as well use cheap, third rate glass. 

Pac> The final argument of course is the whole low light argument where the 24 
Pac> gives you that extra stop. I say fine if you want to shoot wide open and 
Pac> accept softer images great. The main reason I like fast lenses is not to 
Pac> shoot them wide open, but the nice bright view through the camera's finder...

Pac> My rambling is getting out of hand...
Pac> Vic 

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