Well, FWIW, I have a much easier time with the Needles in my MX than I do with the 
"conventional" take-up spool in my Spots.  I haven't really used anything more modern 
than an MX, so my experience is limited, but my favourite loading system by far is the 
on on my old (now stolen) Prakticas - never a mis-load with them.

regards,
frank

Raimo Korhonen wrote:

> I just had the experience of loading a manual camera with conventional take-up spool 
>(a Voigtl�nder Bessa-R if you want to know) and IMHO the magic needle system is 1) a 
>lot easier and 2) more reliable. In my 22 years of experience of the magic needle 
>system I have misloaded only once, with LX. And with the winder attached to ME it 
>seems to really grasp the film end very tight.
> All the best!
> Raimo
> Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
>

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