On 17.02.2017 12:11, Thomas Mieslinger wrote: > On 17.02.17 10:58, bert hubert wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:49:08AM +0100, Thomas Mieslinger wrote: >>> ovh changed its MX A records and now my employers Mail relays can't >>> send >>> email to ovh. >> >> Have you attempted to talk to OVH about their misconfiguration? > > There is no misconfiguration at ovh. > >> I ask this because the DNS Resolver community keeps getting asked to >> solve >> problems which are not ours. But it is easier to ask us to change. >> >> We (BIND, Unbound) keep running into broken F5 configurations for >> example, >> and yes, we can fix those with some special casing. But people always >> ask us >> because we are easier to talk to than the operators of the F5 machines. > > In my experience operating F5 gtm is hard... ( but that is completely > of topic.) > >> And so the code in resolvers becomes ever more a set of exceptions and >> workarounds. And please know, every workaround breaks something else. >> >> So please ask OVH to fix their stuff. > > They can't. > > If verisign had a policy like denic or .fr, this mess would not be in > the tld zone file. > >>> Many many domains are wrongly delegated with wrong glue records in >>> the tld >>> zone. >> >> Let us not encourage broken things to work well. Some pain is quite >> motivational to clean this up. > > The pain is only felt by people who can't fix it. > >>> I understand that this must have a performance impact but having the >>> choice >>> between 1000s of customer calls a day "I can't send emails to ovh >>> and it is >>> your fault" and buying some more recursor boxes, I clearly want more >>> recursor boxes and less disappointed customers. >> >> The disappointed customers may want to ask OVH why it is publishing the >> wrong IP addresses? > > It is not ovh publishing wrong A records, it is glue from the tld zone. > > The example domain is register with gandi.net, so gandi or their > customer would need to update NS Records and glue. I can't fix it, ovh > can't fix it. > >
Those additional records are placed there by the owner of the name(s). ~$ whois dns103.ovh.net Whois Server Version 2.0 Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net for detailed information. Server Name: DNS103.OVH.NET IP Address: 213.251.188.147 IP Address: 2001:41D0:1:4A93:0:0:0:1 Registrar: OVH Whois Server: whois.ovh.com Referral URL: http://www.ovh.com Server Name: DNS103.OVH.NET.VITABAT.FR Registrar: OVH Whois Server: whois.ovh.com Referral URL: http://www.ovh.com So the owner can fix it, or request gandi to fix it. Aki _______________________________________________ Pdns-users mailing list Pdns-users@mailman.powerdns.com https://mailman.powerdns.com/mailman/listinfo/pdns-users