Is anyone else getting a 404 on that link?

Mike Milinkovich
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On 2013-05-30, at 6:43 AM, Robert Gründler <[email protected]> wrote:

> fyi: I've released the first alpha version of the PHP build: 
> https://github.com/pulse00/lennard-php
> 
> 
> I'll try to find some testers for Windows and Linux, as i'm developing on OSX 
> and don't have the resources to fully test
> on all platforms.
> 
> Any feedback on the featureset of the build would be great.
> 
> 
> regard
> 
> 
> -robert
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Mike Milinkovich 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> As far as I know, it was discontinued because the company which was funding 
>> the work decided that it was not where they wanted to put their resources. 
>> I've been hoping ever since that someone from the community would step 
>> forward to resurrect it. 
>> 
>> Mike Milinkovich
>> [email protected]
>> +1.613.220.3223
>> From: Seva Lapsha
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 3:27 PM
>> To: PDT Developers
>> Reply To: PDT Developers
>> Subject: Re: [pdt-dev] Fwd: Providing an All-In-One PDT Eclipse distribution
>> 
>> Yes, I was wondering why it was discontinued...
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 5:11 AM, Mike Milinkovich 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As a historical note, once upon a time, there was a very successful  PHP 
>>> package on the download page. It would be great to see one again.  
>>> 
>>> Mike Milinkovich
>>> [email protected]
>>> +1.613.220.3223
>>> From: Jacek Pospychała
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 11:08 AM
>>> To: PDT Developers
>>> Reply To: PDT Developers
>>> Subject: [pdt-dev] Fwd: Providing an All-In-One PDT Eclipse distribution
>>> 
>>> meh... I accidentally only sent to pdt-eg mailing list.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Jacek Pospychała <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Providing an All-In-One PDT Eclipse distribution
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> hi Robert,
>>> it's a great initiative and I'd love to see you succeed!
>>> If there's anything specific from PDT side that you're missing please
>>> don't hesitate to bug me about it. I'll do anything I can.
>>> 
>>> From Eclipse Foundation side of things, I always wanted to see Eclipse
>>> PHP package listed on http://www.eclipse.org/downloads. IMHO it has
>>> great visibility, downloads rates for some packages are just enormous
>>> (e.g. magnitude higher than top marketplace packages) and it's sad
>>> that there's no package for PHP devs. Now that you're looking into
>>> packaging, have you considered the EPP initiative? It has it's own
>>> constraints, but maybe would be interesting to you.
>>> 
>>> Jacek
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Robert Gründler <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > after over 2 years of maintaining PDT related plugins, i've come to the
>>> > following conclusions:
>>> >
>>> > A lot of people have a hard time setting up an eclipse instance to suite
>>> > their needs for PHP development - with the multitude of all the existing
>>> > plugins available.
>>> > More and more people move over to PHPStorm
>>> >
>>> > The migration to PHPStorm imho has 2 main reasons:
>>> >
>>> > Out-Of-The-Box experience: simply download the thing and start working
>>> > Better performance
>>> >
>>> > I think both issues can be addressed by providing a plain Eclipse
>>> > distribution targeting especially the needs of PHP / Web developers. By
>>> > releasing a custom distribution, we can for example provide a tweaked
>>> > eclipse.ini with optimized JVM settings.
>>> >
>>> > Also, a custom distribution could pre-configure other features to improve
>>> > the performance / user experience, for example by disabling useless
>>> > validators etc.
>>> >
>>> > I've therefore started working on a tycho-built eclipse distro based on 
>>> > the
>>> > following features (so far):
>>> >
>>> > - DLTK 5.0
>>> > - PDT 3.2
>>> > - PDT Extensions Core
>>> > - Composer Plugin
>>> > - PHP Tool Integration
>>> > - MakeGood
>>> > - Json Editor
>>> > - Yaml Editor
>>> >
>>> > Another reason why a custom distribution would be an advantage is that we
>>> > don't have to rely on patches being applied to the Eclipse
>>> > runtime, like this one here, which would be a rather great improvement for
>>> > anyone working with webapplications:
>>> >
>>> > https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=351303
>>> >
>>> > Here's what the distro could provide on an Eclipse-Runtime Level:
>>> >
>>> > - Register an eclipse:// URL protocol, so Stack-Trace links in the browser
>>> > could be opened directly in eclipse (like Sublimetext or Textmate work on
>>> > osx)
>>> > - Provide a Listener-Extension for the SWT.OpenDocument event, so plugins
>>> > can import existing projects by drag & drop onto Eclipse
>>> >
>>> > The product i'm working on will be fully open-source and free of charge,
>>> > however i'm also thinking of ways to fund the development of new features
>>> > to PDT Core / PDT-Extensions or any other related plugin. My main ideas 
>>> > are:
>>> >
>>> > - Go down the crowd-funding route, for example like py-dev has been doing:
>>> > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pydev-and-liclipse-for-a-fast-sexy-and-dark-eclipse
>>> > - Find sponsors for new features, similar to what travis-ci does:
>>> > https://travis-ci.org/
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Any feedback greatly appreciated.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > regards
>>> >
>>> > -robert
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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