(Accidentally replied only to Trent initially. Resending to the whole
list.)
Thank you, Trent! So, at least for now, we can say we have a potential
$500/month budget to support further PDT development. Between 5–10
hours/month of development for a developer, maybe, depending on their
locale.
Is anyone else on the list familiar with Eclipse project stewardship,
and/or does anyone know anyone else involved in the Eclipse foundation
that can help guide us in either encouraging Dawid to continue
development (arguably the best way forward) or, failing that,
transferring ownership to a new person, in the case that the original
maintainer is not available?
Honestly, we're already much further than I expected to get on the first
night of proposing this. Even if we do the work in an off-project fork,
and do the project ownership task in parallel, that would be fine by me
if it meant we can start chipping away at the issues.
For now, is anyone on the list Java-proficient enough to start taking a
crack at the code? Alexander McKee, you commented earlier, perhaps you
can speak to your availability to further work? I saw you already had
some PRs accepted in the past and at least one pending.
And if anyone else has any thoughts, please share!
Sincerely,
Basil
On 2/17/23 10:34 PM, Trent Renshaw wrote:
Correct. We are willing to sponsor up to $500 per month to drive the
PDT project forward whoever the developer may be.
I am not a Java developer otherwise I would lend my time. I am not
sure how the syntax checking works in Eclipse; it may leverage a
pluggable linter e.g. Apache Yetus with rules written in JavaScript or
some other scripting language? In which case, no Java development
experience may be necessary to implement lint support for PHP >7.4.
Regards,
*Trent Renshaw > Solutions Architect | Software Engineer*
/Evosys Pty Ltd/
p: 1300 386 797 | *d: 02 9002 5800* | m: 0411 038 749
e: trent.rens...@evosys.com.au <mailto:trent.rens...@evosys.com.au> |
www.evosys.com.au <http://www.evosys.com.au/>
PO Box 583 | 12 Caltowie Place, Coffs Harbour NSW 2450
*From: *Basil pdt-dev <pdt-dev@eclipse.org>
*Date: *Saturday, 18 February 2023 at 13:25
*To: *Basil pdt-dev <pdt-dev@eclipse.org>
*Cc: *Basil Gohar <basilgo...@hidayahtech.com>
*Subject: *Re: [pdt-dev] Financial or other support to get PDT up to
PHP 8.x support?
If Dawid is no longer interested in furthering development, would your
company be interested in sponsoring another developer to continue the
work that's being done?
Sincerely,
Basil
On 2/17/23 9:06 PM, Trent Renshaw wrote:
My company is willing to sponsor Dawid and the PDT project as
Eclipse is core to our organisation.
However, we need some acknowledgment of commitment from Dawid to
meet his $500 per month goal to drive PDT forward.
Regards,
*Trent Renshaw > Founder & Solutions Architect*
/Evosys Pty Ltd/
p: 1300 386 797 | *d: 02 9002 5800* | m: 0411 038 749
e: trent.rens...@evosys.com.au
<mailto:trent.rens...@evosys.com.au> | www.evosys.com.au
<http://www.evosys.com.au/>
PO Box 583 | 12 Caltowie Place, Coffs Harbour NSW 2450
*From: *Basil Mohamed Gohar via pdt-dev <pdt-dev@eclipse.org>
<mailto:pdt-dev@eclipse.org>
*Date: *Saturday, 18 February 2023 at 12:24
*To: *PDT Developers <pdt-dev@eclipse.org>
<mailto:pdt-dev@eclipse.org>
*Cc: *Basil Mohamed Gohar <basilgo...@hidayahtech.com>
<mailto:basilgo...@hidayahtech.com>
*Subject: *Re: [pdt-dev] Financial or other support to get PDT up
to PHP 8.x support?
I reached out to Dawid directly about a month-and-a-half ago, but
unfortunately I received no response. I get the feeling the
current maintainer is either unable or unwilling to continue
running the project. I hope that I can be proven wrong and we get
the project restarted as-is.
With that said, is there any interest from anyone else in taking
action to see if we can petition to have a new maintainer for the
project, perhaps from among ourselves? I don't particular want
it, I cannot even program in Java, but I am devoted user of PDT
and concerned for its future, and would love to facilitate a
process that kickstarts development again. Sadly, there are few
to no other alternatives that, like PDT, are truly cross-platform,
free-and-open-source, comprehensive IDEs for PHP web development.
VSCodium may have the chops, but it's not a pleasant experience
for me and I hate being tied to MS.
At a minimum, if the platform can be updated to support up through
8.2, that'd be a huge step forward. I am willing to explore
sponsoring development in that direction, whether from myself
(can't afford much) or organizing a campaign and even hiring
someone from Upwork or similar, unless someone on the list wants
to take a crack at it first.
So, basically, I'm proposing, if we have a compelling case to
continue development, to petition the Eclipse foundation to
transfer or at least open-up ownership of this project to someone
who can lead it further down.
Alternatively, we can always fork it, but I'd rather exhaust all
options for the original project continue forward before forking
and losing the history we have with this project and its
associated history.
Any thoughts? I hope I'm not the only one.
Sincerely,
Basil
On 12/2/22 9:17 AM, Alexander McKee wrote:
Hi Basil,
I think the main issue is that there is only one PDT
developer, Dawid, who is intermittently active. I tried to get
involved, there's still a PR open, but unfortunately it
doesn't seem help is welcome.
I even sponsored Dawid using GitHub's sponsorship feature for
a while.
I don't want to make it about Dawid, he's clearly done a lot
of work on PDT over the years but he is also evidently not
working consistently on PDT and the product is suffering as a
result.
I wish he would work with other people to help enable more
development to take place.
I am using PHPStorm now but I wish I could use an open source
product like PDT.
Alex
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*From:* pdt-dev <pdt-dev-boun...@eclipse.org>
<mailto:pdt-dev-boun...@eclipse.org> on behalf of Basil
Mohamed Gohar via pdt-dev <pdt-dev@eclipse.org>
<mailto:pdt-dev@eclipse.org>
*Sent:* Thursday, 1 December 2022, 22:39
*To:* PDT Developers <pdt-dev@eclipse.org>
<mailto:pdt-dev@eclipse.org>
*Cc:* Basil Mohamed Gohar <basilgo...@hidayahtech.com>
<mailto:basilgo...@hidayahtech.com>
*Subject:* [pdt-dev] Financial or other support to get PDT up
to PHP 8.x support?
I'd like to offer to help get some kind of support, whether
financial or otherwise, to the PDT project in order to get
development going again, especially with regards to PHP 8.2
support, which is just about to be released. As it stands
now, PDT only supports up to 7.4.
Please let me know if there's some way that we can bring in
support from outside, whether through sponsors or development
resources, and if so, how best we can manage that.
I don't want to pressure the core developers, rather, I just
want to offer support. Sadly, I'm not fluent in Java so I
don't think I can contribute directly, else I would have long ago.
I hope this garners some support, because I love PDT as a tool
and I would love to keep using it, but there are key features
in the latest versions of PHP (such as the /match/ construct)
that just aren't recognized and are parsed as errors in PDT
currently.
Sincerely,
Basil
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