hey all, http://piratepad.net/pPEAhgQS00
I just made some edit (in dark violet). I also copied the previous text below. It looks good for me, I simply reformulated some sentences, trying to make it extremely clear. let me know, cheers! -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team. Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Marco Donnarumma <de...@thesaddj.com> wrote: > hey, > I'm touring in Poland until next week. > I'll take a look when I'm back on monday 8th, if that's not too late. > > cheers, > M > > -- > Marco Donnarumma > New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. > Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team. > Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com > Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com > Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net > > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:02 PM, András Murányi <muran...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> OK, I've made a light review. >> It would be nice if other people took a look too before we settle on it. >> >> András >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Nicolas Montgermont < >> nicolas_montgerm...@yahoo.fr> wrote: >> >>> hello all, >>> >>> it should be nice to have any opinion on that. It's been nearly two >>> months now. >>> you can edit directly online or comment here. >>> Best, >>> n >>> >>> Le 26/01/13 10:37, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit : >>> >>> updated once agin: >>> http://piratepad.net/pPEAhgQS00 >>> >>> i've kept the old version down there for comparison, and eventually to >>> cancel the corrections I've made. >>> Please edit directly or comment, correct! >>> best, >>> n >>> >>> Le 24/01/13 11:19, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit : >>> >>> >>> Le 23/01/13 20:16, András Murányi a écrit : >>> >>> I think the first paragraph is lovely and we shall keep it as it is, to >>> avoid extra iterations. >>> I don't wholeheartedly agree with the rewrite of the 2nd paragraph: >>> >>> I think as well it must be corrected. >>> >>> the points about pd being free and being available in source are missing >>> now, >>> >>> I agree for free. For the sources, as the first line of the text says >>> it's an open source software, I am not sure it's necessary. >>> >>> as well as a the point that pd-extended is more than vanilla+externals >>> but it's also patched. >>> >>> I don't think it's specially relevant when you want to explain >>> Pd-extended in one line. >>> >>> Also, afaik, vanilla is not "written by" Miller but rather "maintained" >>> by him as it contains code from various authors. >>> >>> please edit, I think it's just a question of adding "mainly" somewhere. >>> >>> So, at the end, I personally prefer how this paragraphed looked before >>> the last commit. >>> All this work being quite subjective (as it is free text not program >>> code) *please* give some reasons/rationale when you make change changes: >>> why did you do what you did, what is the improvement? Otherwise we might >>> just keep changing until the end of times :o) >>> >>> You are right: >>> What I wanted to do here is trying to equilibrate the informations. I >>> think it's much more relevant for a newcomer to know what is PD vs Pd >>> extended, than to know Pd is available for IRIX. For me the text is more >>> looking like a technical explanation around Pd, than an introduction to the >>> Pd universe. For example, GEM was not mentionned once in the whole text, >>> but cyclone was. In the end, it is more an introduction for developpers, >>> than for users. What I think we must correct. It's a matter of balancing >>> the informations, and to start from the beginning. >>> >>> I don't think we need the extra paragraph about graphical programming, >>> but a picture of an actual patch would tell a lot (without words). >>> >>> I disagree. The whole point of Pd is patching, but the word is only used >>> once in the text in the sentence: >>> It is easy to extend Pd by nesting reusable patches ("abstractions") or >>> by utilising object classes ("externals"). >>> >>> No words are written on what is a patch. And I think it's totally >>> fundamental. >>> >>> I don't support mixing the 3rd and the 4th paragraph either - they are >>> two different points (extendability, history). >>> >>> If you want. IMHO, Pd extendability can be introduced in a sentence >>> where Pd basic usage needs a paragraph. Max explanations worth a look for >>> comparisons with pd's: >>> http://cycling74.com/whatismax/ >>> >>> >>> I think as well the sentence from the 4th paragraph: >>> The core of Pd (aka Pd Vanilla) is written and maintained by Miller >>> Puckette and includes the work of many developers, making the whole >>> package very much a community effort. >>> >>> is redundant now. >>> >>> It should be nice to have other opinions on all that? >>> We are close to publishing :) >>> Best, >>> n >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://nim.on.free.fr >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pdweb mailing list >> Pdweb@iem.at >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pdweb >> >> >
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