Mike McAulay wrote:
ok, thanks.

I should have mentioned that The Ruby Way is also out in a second edition. You'll want the second editions of all three books.

Mike

On May 2, 2007, at 2:34 PM, Mike McAulay wrote:

If you learn well from books, there are some great ones for Ruby/
Rails.  My twist on the canonical answer to your question is:

1) Buy and read Programming Ruby 2e and The Ruby Way.  Read them in
that order, and type in lots of code as you go.
2) Buy and read Agile Web Development For Rails 2e.  Build the sample
app as you read.

The rest of your questions are good but I think if you do the above
you'll be well equipped to pick your own path forward.

Also, IRC channel +1 (although I haven't been spending much time
there lately).

Mike

On May 2, 2007, at 2:23 PM, Bob Lehman wrote:

What is the best way to get started with rails/ruby?

My current ruby plan
 - Switch all scripting assignments at work to it that I can get
away with -:).  Probably have to use Jruby on HP.
    So the question here is the question. Has anyone got the HP
UX-11 port working ?  If so what is the performance like?
    I have jruby running, but it is a bit sluggish.

My Rails plan
 - Building simple contacts application

How do you figure out what the best technology stack to use.  I see
all the following stuff and get kind of glazed over.
 Ruby
   Rails
   MasterView
   RJS
   Hobo
   ActiveState
   ActiveRecord
     Migrations
     SexyMigrations

What editing tools to use
 Editors
   Scite
   UltraEdit
   Others?
 IDE's
   Netbeans
   Aptana - RADRails
  To give some context to the question above.

I work for a company called PTC - they build big CAD tools and
enterprise collaboration tools.  I tend to work on the grungier
parts of it - DB, System, Integration.  Our tool set is not very
good and I  want to remedy that -  at least for the project I am  on.

In pure ruby I am going to build some system admin type tools.  I
could use nagios, hobbit or something else along that line, but I
kind of want the excuse to write the scripts.  I found one system
admin tool written in ruby, but it looked like a commercial
offering.  But if there is something I would be happy to hack
around with it as a starting point.  Otherwise it seems like a good
exuse to write networking, parsing and system code.

- On each deployed machine
  - Process monitoring
     - Up
     - Down
     - Mem Usage
     - Start/Stop/restart
  - Log file parsing
  - disk monitor
  - internal application statics - internal queue monitoring

In rails I want to build some simple apps to
  - Contact Manager
     - link to mapping tool via address
  - Asset manager      - help with all the hardware we have
scattered about
       - Name
       - Location
       - Address
         ...
Both pretty simple master detail(s) applications.  I would like to
put a pretty front end on and build up the knowledge of the tools

Once I become more proficient I would probably write a nice webbish
front end to the system admin tools.

So please feel free to comment on any of this - I am currently a
sponge (no sponge Bob jokes please) with the hopes of becoming  a
contributor someday.

--Bob

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