Re: [PEDA] To print PCB in scale 1:1

Joe Sapienza Mon, 01 Nov 2004 19:05:23 -0800

Dean,

I was forced to use PADS from the mid to late eighties till about the mid nineties when happened into a place that had a bunch of Protel stuff. At the time if felt like getting out of Jail. Then 4 years ago that place got bought by 3M and all of the R&D staff including myself got ousted. Since then I had to offer PADS because it pays the bills. The board I'm currently working on is 14"X15" and has 7620 pins. For ease of use I doubt anything will ever replace P99SE. P2004 is just a name stealer. While I do it as having great potential I think it was release at a fairly immature state of completion. PADS 2004 is not perfect either and it's online DRC is a real PITA compared to either version of Protel. Obviously I'm biased so I'm sorry I just can't give you the feedback you're looking for.

Joe

----- Original Message ----- From: "Nukien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] To print PCB in scale 1:1

Joe

I would be interested in hearing how you find the comparison between PADs
and Protel, be it 99SE or 2004.  I have yet to see a really good unbiased
comparison - with backing - of the various packages out there.

I keep hoping to see a really good in-depth article in a rag that actually
*builds* a medium-complexity board, start to finish, in each of the
packages.  Schematics, multi-page, component creation, management, the
works.

That would be a huge job, I know, and very difficult to do without bias. I suppose one way would be to have the author(s) not actually do the work, but sit in very, very closely, with experts for each package. What I would want to see is both the highlights of what a package can do really well, as well as what it *can't* do very well. Plus workarounds.

-- Dean Carpenter deano at areyes com 94TT :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Sapienza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Protel EDA Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] To print PCB in scale 1:1

"Eats too many trees"
You're just too funny
Sorry I'm in this huge PADS job and feel like I'm in hell sans the online
DRC so I need all the good humor I can get
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Reagan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Discussion List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:33 AM Subject: RE: [PEDA] To print PCB in scale 1:1
Export to gerber , use Camtastik to print.  It has great control features
for printing.   I never use Protel to print anything including the text
reports.  It has to many driver problems and not good enough control.

Eats

too many trees

Mike Reagan

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jun Gong
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:28 AM
To: Protel EDA Discussion List
Subject: Re: [PEDA] To print PCB in scale 1:1

Printing PCB in strict 1:1 scale is not a easy job. Though you could

specify

1:1 print scale in Protel, the output may still real 1:1. And even you got

a

1:1 output on one printer, you may not get a 1:1 print on aother printer.
The way I did is make a two round print.  Following are the steps:
1) Draw 2 lines on a bland PCB file, one on X , one on Y direction.

Suppose

both of their length are 2 inches.
2) Print the PCB with 1:1 scale in Protel print option.
3)Measure the length of lines on the paper output.
4) If the line length of output is not 2 inches, calculate the adjustment
ratio, and enter it into Protel's X scale and Y scale.
5) You could re-do step 2 to 4 to verify it is trule 1:1 on both X, Y
direction.
6) Print the final true 1:1 PCB output.
Regards.
Jun gong
----- Original Message ----- From: "é" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 6:11 AM Subject: [PEDA] To print PCB in scale 1:1

> Hello, everyone, > > With your kind help I have completed the PCB of my BGA board. Thank you very > much. > To check the footprint created by myself before manufacturing, I hope > to > print my PCB in scale 1:1. But cannot get the correct result. The size

of

> output PCB always varies with the paper size I selected. I thought > there > must be some option to set but I could not find it. Could you please

give

me
> advice?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Xiangchen
>
>
>
>
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