> No need to be scared. By the year 2053 everyone will have robots > producing PCBs at a rate of five different designs per hour using Protel > MMLIII and its Situs Autorouter ver.3548. Except, there won't be any > PCBs by then, so you should start looking for another source of income > or retrain yourselves. Myself, I plan to spend most of my time in > retirement, unless someone desperately needs my expertise to repair > pre-2020 electronics.
Personally, I look forward to printing PCBs out on special cardstock paper using conductive ink printheads. Yes, this is under development now. No, I don't have a link to the story. Irate 2053 customer: "What do you build these things out of anyway, cardboard?" Me, 2053: "Umm...yeah, what else should I use?" Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Igor Gmitrovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 5:22 PM Subject: RE: [PEDA] Cannot locate server initialization file:, Answer2053 > No need to be scared. By the year 2053 everyone will have robots > producing PCBs at a rate of five different designs per hour using Protel > MMLIII and its Situs Autorouter ver.3548. Except, there won't be any > PCBs by then, so you should start looking for another source of income > or retrain yourselves. Myself, I plan to spend most of my time in > retirement, unless someone desperately needs my expertise to repair > pre-2020 electronics. > > Igor > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Trent Bates > Sent: Saturday, 4 December 2004 9:11 AM > To: Protel EDA Discussion List > Subject: RE: [PEDA] Cannot locate server initialization file:, > Answer2053 > > I want to put everyone's fears at bay. The problem was not with Protel > it > was with my computer. > Originally I was unable to get 3 different software packages to work and > Protel was one of them. I tried installing and deinstalling them > multiple > times. Now that I have turned my clock back to the proper date all of > the > software packages work fine. > I don't pretend to know why my date was the problem but it was. > > Even if Protel had a problem with the 2053 date (which it doesn't) once > the > date is set to 2005 and Protel is installed and works even if I turn the > date up to 2053 the program works fine. The problem was installing the > programs with the year 2053 not running them with that date. > So even if other people have the same problem as I did, which I doubt > will > happen, you can always turn the computer back to 2005 install Protel > 99SE > SP6 and then turn the date back to 2053. > > Trent > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Bagotronix Tech Support > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:16 PM > To: Protel EDA Discussion List > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Cannot locate server initialization file:, > Answer2053 > > Y2K was not the only time bomb in software. There is the Y2.038K > problem > that many OS's have, due to keeping the time as a 32-bit signed integer, > where 0 started on Jan 1, 1970. That takes us to 2038, after which the > seconds count jumps back to negative numbers. Counting sequence: 1970, > 1971,...,2037, 2038, 1902, 1903,... Hey, it will be year 1902 all over > again! > > The Protel s/w may be regarding any date beyond 2038 as being in the > past. > 2053 would be interpreted as 1917. Even if the program had smarts > enough to > clip the time value if it was out of bounds, the nearest valid date > would be > 1970, before the s/w even existed. > > BTW, this "incrementing as an unsigned integer, but treating as a signed > integer" was the cause of some electronic voting machines counting up to > 32767 votes, and the next vote cast set the count back to -32768. Since > there was no paper ballot as a backup, there was no way to recount. > Wonderful, eh? > > Best regards, > Ivan Baggett > Bagotronix Inc. > website: www.bagotronix.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harry Selfridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Protel EDA Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:50 PM > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Cannot locate server initialization file:, > Answer2053 > > > > For crying out loud people! Give it a rest. > > > > I just ran the system year out to 2040 for a quick test, and the > Protel99SE > > software starts and runs just fine. I don't have the time to do a > > year-by-year test, but it isn't rocket science. I might add that a > well > > known email program crashed with the 2040 date, and a couple of other > > business programs wouldn't start - but the Protel software fired right > up. > > > > I've run Protel software since the DOS days, and I've had every > version > > they've published - including beta versions. NONE have ever had a > time > > bomb. IF there is a date that the software doesn't work, I'm very > sure > > that it will be found to be Microsoft related, and not Protel related. > > > > If there are people running cracked copies of the time limited demo > > software - there might be an issue that stops them at some time in the > > future. I haven't bothered to see how the time limited code checks > > dates. I also have no sympathy for them if the crack fails and the > > software locks them out - perhaps they should get lawyers... > > > > > > At 11:06 AM 12/3/04, you wrote: > > > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > >>Don't get your proverbial panties in a twist, boys... > > >> > > >>If 2005 (as suggested below) is not a tested, confirmed cutoff date > for > > >>Protel, my suggestion is this: Perform a date test yourself. > > >> > > >The fact is, if Altium has placed a time bomb in the software, so > that > > >it will not run at some reasonable time in the near future, it is > interstate > > >fraud, and quite prosecutable. I would hope we (99 users) don't have > to > band > > >together and hire a lawyer, but that is a possibility. So, has > anyone > done a > > >date test to find out when D-day is? > > > > > >Jon > > snip > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You are subscribed to the PEDA discussion forum > > > > To Post messages: > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Unsubscribe and Other Options: > > http://techservinc.com/mailman/listinfo/peda_techservinc.com > > > > Browse or Search Old Archives (2001-2004): > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > Browse or Search Current Archives (2004-Current): > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You are subscribed to the PEDA discussion forum > > To Post messages: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Unsubscribe and Other Options: > http://techservinc.com/mailman/listinfo/peda_techservinc.com > > Browse or Search Old Archives (2001-2004): > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > Browse or Search Current Archives (2004-Current): > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You are subscribed to the PEDA discussion forum > > To Post messages: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Unsubscribe and Other Options: > http://techservinc.com/mailman/listinfo/peda_techservinc.com > > Browse or Search Old Archives (2001-2004): > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > Browse or Search Current Archives (2004-Current): > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed > Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. 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