thanks Brad
i solved it by pasting into a new blank pcb
but of course i lost a lot of stuff

so after you wrote i chased this a little more

i too had cleared all nets (which doesn't work)
then i just assigned the planes to no net and bingo, they stayed gone
just as you say

you don't have to re-add those nets, just assign to no net

i can confirm that deleting all rules and classes has no effect

now the sad part ...
having gone through all this my memory suddenly woke up and i remembered do that 'no net' business a while back
it seemed obvious at that time
sigh

ds

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Brad Velander wrote:
Dennis,
        This is so funny, I had exactly the same thing happen to me yesterday 
afternoon. Precisely the same problem. I just gave up, so I have two plane 
layers listed on my layer screen, so what. Sorry didn't find a solution myself. 
In my case it was on a board originally imported from PADs, so I thought it 
could be an aberration of the import process.

        Eureka, found my problem. I decided to look a little further since you were 
experiencing the same problem Dennis. What struck me as funny was that the two planes 
listed a net association even though all nets had been deleted from the design. I 
re-added those two nets, disassociated the planes from those nets to "No Net", 
then I could delete the planes from the layer stack and they stayed deleted. In the 
process I had also gone through all of the DRC rules and removed anything associated with 
those planes but that alone hadn't fixed the problem.

        Moral: Disassociate your planes from a net, delete the planes from the 
layerstack, then delete all your nets.

Sincerely,
Brad Velander
Senior PCB Designer
Northern Airborne Technology
1925 Kirschner Rd.,
Kelowna, BC, V1Y 4N7.
tel (250) 763-2329 ext. 225
fax (250) 762-3374


-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 12, 2005 8:20 AM
To: Protel EDA Discussion List
Subject: Re: [PEDA] 99SE POWER PLANES DELETION



99SE

I've got a board which started life as a 4 layer

now am using for outline template, design rules and some other details but it will be a 2 layer

after i delete all the primitives on the power planes the Layer Stack manager allows me to delete the planes, says 'confirm delete?', the planes disappear from the stack up and i say 'OK'

now on the Document Options Layers dialog the planes are still listed and if i reopen the Layer Stack manager it shows them back in place again !

how do i get rid of these layers?
they just keep coming back!

Dennis Saputelli


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