thanks all for your answers

duane,
i am attracted by your take  :)

abd,
the parts seem to be made correctly on 10 grid
it is some wires that are on grid 1 and parts are snapped over to them

aj,
i am torn as whether to expend the work or not
it is about 2 pages bigger than C, smaller than D

of course if the thing nets out correctly now i could easily make matters worse by 'fixing' it
it really comes down to the maintenance issue
and any time spent would be unpaid due to the nature of the project

as it was made in P2004 he discovered the 'G' key which cycles through 3 grids, 1,5,10

i mentioned holding the ctrl key to temporarily suspend the grid but he said that does not work in P2004
i don't know if they changed that or changed the key

ds

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dennis, How big is this schematic? Ime, a moderatley large schematic can
be redrawn (having a print to work from) in relatively short order. For
instance, a while back I had to redraw a 4 page schematic containing
about 200 components and about 1200 connections. Took me about a half
day (actually, it took me from around 9pm til 12:30AM, but who really
cares, except me...). I'd rather do it from scratch with confidence than
to spend a day fixing someone else's mistake, though in my case, it was
some premature file management in which I accidently deleted a database
but had fortunately made a test print just prior...

Regards,

aj


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Saputelli
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 9:52 PM
To: Protel EDA Discussion List
Subject: Re: [PEDA] GRID IN 99SE SCH


i just cajoled someone into designing a schematic for me in Protel

after a bit of kicking and screaming and a bout w/ orcad he finally agreed to it (he uses designworks and swears by it for sch)

so now i have the schematic (done in dxp 2004 SP2 and saved back to 99)

the grid was set to 5 in doc options

i have always been careful to make all connections using grid 10

when i paste a component the pin won't land exactly on the wire it seems to be off by maybe 1

but if pick up the component and move it it will snap to the wire

further inspection showed many wires drawn on grid 1 although wires don't list coords (at least in 99) i can see this with the visible grid set to 5

i guess i was never aware that one could take a part and that the part pin would snap to an off grid location (obviously taking the whole part with it) while the grid was set to 10

am i headed for trouble here ?

related question
with enough care and precision can one draw a schematic a grid 1 and expect the connectivity to work ?

do i really need to move all the wires around?, there are pretty many of them

now don't blast my friend, he is a *very* smart guy and this was his first schematic with absolutely no prior experience w/ protel and it's quirks he actually expects the sw to help him with the task!

ds

BTW
my friend absolutely HATES protel for sch (he doesn't do boards) he says it is the biggest bunch of garbage he has ever seen and he has been around the block with many programs

his gripes (again he was using P2004 SP2)
 the wiring, rubberbanding
 RMB rarely has anything he expected or wanted
 too much work to fill all the metadata into fields
 too much work always repositioning text after rotating parts
 part building too hard compared to designworks
 busses were not easy to use with mixed signals
 and so on


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