STOI. Semiotic Theory Of Information
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STOI-DIS. Semiotic Theory Of Information -- Discussion
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Edwina,
I must have slept through to breakfast, because you're apparently
serving waffles now. Which I'd normally prefer to bologna, for
breakfast anyway, but my doctor has put me on a lo-carb diet.
Once again, functions are special cases of dyadic relations.
The fact that you are trying to explain a triadic sign relation, which is a more
general type of structure, in terms of dyadic relations, much less functions, is
a very common form of reductionism, and it tells me that you do not comprehend
the meaning of the phrase "irreducible triadic relation" in any of its senses.
A triadic sign relations determines a number of dyadic relations that can be
derived or projected from it, but the dyadic relations so derived or projected
do not determine the triadic sign relation. That is one of the things that
irreducibility means.
Understanding this is ''sine qua non'' for understanding Peirce's semiotics.
Regards,
Jon
Edwina Taborsky wrote:
But Jon .... I don’t want to go among mad people," ....."Oh, you can’t
help that," said the Cat: "we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad."
"How do you know I’m mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn’t have come here.”
I wouldn't say that I have narrowed the range of what can be said, much
less thought, by using the outline of a function to describe the
semiosic process. I'd say that I have expanded the range of what can be
understood as that process...And also, I've explained the dynamical
nature of semiosis...which is not just a cognitive 'this stands for
that' mechanical placement. It's an actual creation; a creation of a
morphological reality - whether that reality be biological or conceptual.
Grammatical? “Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'if it was so, it
might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't.
That's logic.”
Edwina
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