Stan, to answer your question:

 

Peirce’s “firstness” is one of three elements of the phaneron, i.e. an element 
of experience. John’s “firstness” is certainly not that, and as far as I can 
tell does not relate to Peirce’s phaneron at all. I don’t think John has any 
use for phaneroscopy.

 

gary f.

 

From: Stanley N Salthe [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 29-Nov-14 9:59 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [biosemiotics:7591] Re: Natural Propositions 6

 

John wrote:

 

I don't think that firstness can be directly experienced. 

At best it would be an indeterminate mush. James called it "a blooming, buzzing 
confusion", and C I Lewis called it "ineffable". I find their arguments 
convincing. 

 

S: How does this relate to Peirce's 'phaneron'?

 

STAN

 

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