How about post-traumatic disorder? Is that really necessary like this: “ ..to think, remember, imagine a feeling at all is to feel it.”? kindly markku Lähetetty laitteesta Windowsin sähköposti Lähettäjä: Benjamin Udell Lähetetty: tiistai, 2. joulukuuta 2014 20:41 Vast.ott: [email protected], [email protected] John D., lists, Thanks for quoting it. I hadn't remembered this distinction between feeling and sensation. Earlier in the same manuscript (titled "Forms of Consciousness" by the editors, who guess it to be from about 1900), in CP 7.543, Peirce also says that sensation involves both feeling and the consciousness of one's being compelled, and that a sensation is an event which has to happen at a particular moment. He points out that to remember or imagine a sensation is not the same as actually having that sensation, and says that, on the other hand, to think, remember, imagine a feeling at all is to feel it. Best, Ben On 12/2/2014 12:53 PM, Deely, John N. wrote: Here is the undated CP 7.551 passage: Undated CP 7.551. There are no other forms of consciousness except the three that have been mentioned, Feeling, Altersense, and Medisense. They form a sort of system. Feeling is the momentarily present contents of consciousness taken in its pristine simplicity, apart from anything else. It is consciousness in its first state, and might be called primisense. Altersense is the consciousness of a directly present other or second, withstanding us. Medisense is the consciousness of a thirdness, or medium between primisense and altersense, leading from the former to the latter. It is the consciousness of a process of bringing to mind. Feeling, or primisense , is the consciousness of firstness; altersense is consciousness of otherness or secondness; medisense is the consciousness of means or thirdness. Of primisense there is but one fundamental mode. Altersense has two modes, Sensation and Will. Medisense has three modes, Abstraction, Suggestion, Association.†16 (see further 7.276–278). From: Helmut Raulien Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:39 To: [email protected] Subject: [biosemiotics:7647] Re: Peirce categories Dear Edwina, List, I think, a good text is CP.7551. I only found it in google books, and couldnt copy it. Catchwords are "primisense, altersense, medisense". Best, Helmut Edwina Taborsky wrote: Ben - just a minor quibble. With Firstness, you don't get a 'feeling of red'; you get a Feeling. To identify that feeling, even as 'red', moves you into Secondness and Thirdness. Edwina ----- Original Message ----- From: Benjamin Udell To: <[email protected] >; <[email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:00 PM Subject: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7629] Re: Peirce categories Stan, lists,
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