Jerry, You wrote (26 Apr 2015 17:14:19)
More specifically, consider CSP's letter to Lady Welby, p. 7, Oct. 12,
1904. and his clear distinction between Firstness and Secondness.
"Secondness is that mode of being of that which is such as it is,
without respect to a second but regardless of any third."
In this sentence, the critical rhetoric terms are the words Secondness
and the second. The direct implication of this sentence is that the
two-ness of Secondness is indicative of a difference - the difference
that makes a difference in the terminology of Bateson.
Tommi:
First, is the quote correct: "...without respect to a second..." which
sounds very odd if the Secondness is talked about?
Secondly, at least I have always seen Bateson's idea of information as a
difference that makes difference as one clear example of triadic
relation or "Thirdness" if you like. The first difference already
contains a first that differs from some second someway and the
difference that is made is the third (a meaning if you like).
Yours,
-Tommi
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