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> From: Jerry LR Chandler <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Practopoiesis: now I understand it better > Date: September 28, 2015 11:19:21 AM CDT > To: Danko Nikolic <[email protected]> > > Dear Danko: > > Would you like to consider a question? > > After struggling with the numerous statements of Firstness, Secondness, and > Thirdness for several years, I settled on one of his latest renditions > because of its mathematical implications as well as biochemical > interpretations, that is the version given in his private letter to Lady > Welby. > > In recent weeks, as a consequence of explorations of the meaning of identity > in utterances, statements and propositions, it occurred to me that CSP > proposes these terms in such a grammatical way that is extremely innovative. > (Recall that CSP depended heavily on English grammar to formulate his logical > propositions, such as in the medad and the trichotomy of nine nouns as a > universal logical/relational argument for whatever.) > > Presuppositions: > The terms First, Second and Third are nouns. > The suffix term, "-ness" functions grammatically by changing nouns into > adjectives. > > Example: > The ball is red. > The red ball is (predicate) > The redness of the ball is (predicate) > > My conjecture is that CSP is intentionally invented these terms to infer a > special class of objects that intrinsically communicate, grammatically, terms > that implicitly contain the qualities of both being a noun and an adjective. > Thus each of the three terms (Firstness, Secondness, and Thirdness) contains > in its sub-parts, roots of both. > > Note that this usage of "x-ness" is consistent with his chemical training and > modern chemical logic. > The formal logic of two atoms combining to form a molecule is of this type of > usage. > > Is this consistent or non-consistent with your meanings? > > I presume that you will find this to be a strange question. I pose it to > provide you an opportunity to explore the foundation of CSP logic in the hard > sciences, which is direct and wide-ranging and not at all amazing as you > suggest. > > Cheers > > Jerry > > > > > On Sep 28, 2015, at 3:57 AM, Danko Nikolic wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> When I presented the list with the theory of practopoiesis and suggested >> that the three traverses can account for abductive reasoning, I also >> received a number of questions regarding Peirce's work to which I had no >> answers. The reason I had no answers was that I did not know much about work >> of Peirce other than abductive reasoning. >> >> Now, I would like to share with you that I have made a bit of a step >> forward. One of the questions (or suggestions) that I received was that >> perhaps the three levels of organization that I proposed (three traverses) >> correspond to the three Peirce's categories: Firstness, Secondness, and >> Thirdness. >> >> Meanwhile, I have learned more about Peirce and I think that the answer is: >> No. The three levels of organization do not correspond to these three >> aspects of our consciousness. Actually, it seems that all three categories >> should be assigned to the same level of organization, and this would be the >> middle level, which I named anapoiesis. >> >> I always thought that this middle level is the most interesting part of the >> theory, as it can produce a fascinatingly rich dynamics to explain >> consciousness. Now, it seems to me that 1ness, 2ness, and 3ness correspond >> very nicely to different aspects of its dynamics. So, it appears that this >> aspect of Pierce's work will be extremely helpful in the future in >> describing different aspects of adaptive processes in tri-traversal systems. >> >> Peirce's philosophy (at least a part of it) may even get some sort of a >> foundation in hard sciences, which would be amazing. >> >> I hope that someone finds this useful. >> >> Best, >> >> Danko >> >> -- >> >> Prof. Dr. Danko Nikolic >> >> >> Web: http://www.danko-nikolic.com >> >> Mail address 1: >> Department of Neurophysiology >> Max Planck Institute for Brain Research >> Deutschordenstr. 46 >> 60528 Frankfurt am Main >> GERMANY >> >> Mail address 2: >> Frankfurt Institute for Advanced Studies >> Wolfgang Goethe University >> Ruth-Moufang-Str. 1 >> 60433 Frankfurt am Main >> GERMANY >> >> ---------------------------- >> Office: (..49-69) 96769-736 >> Lab: (..49-69) 96769-209 >> Fax: (..49-69) 96769-327 >> [email protected] >> ---------------------------- >> >> >> >> ----------------------------- >> PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON >> PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to >> [email protected] . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L but >> to [email protected] with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the BODY of >> the message. More at http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce-l/peirce-l.htm . >> >> >> >> >
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