> On Oct 29, 2015, at 9:06 AM, Benjamin Udell <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I think that I'd agree with Kant's remark "That philosophy which mixes pure 
> principles with empirical ones does not deserve the name of philosophy...." 
> if by "philosophy" one takes him to mean pure philosophy, or pure cenoscopy 
> in Peirce's sense, as opposed to applied philosophy/cenoscopy, which can get 
> into questions such as that of the evolution of living beings from material 
> systems as understood by the special sciences (a.k.a. idioscopy), and so on. 

In one sense this seems almost true by definition. That is if we’re doing an 
analysis that depends upon keeping straight phenomena from necessary 
conditions. On the other hand as I’ve discussed here before I tend to agree 
with Quine that Kant’s division is deeply problematic in practice. By practice 
I don’t mean just applied philosophy (although I’m unsure what we mean by 
that). It seems to me that the very separation between logical supports and 
empirics is itself a kind of applied philosophy that breaks down when we 
consider philosophy in more abstract. That’s not to say the opposition isn’t 
frequently useful. It’s worth considering pure cenoscopy as a logical issue. 
Just that in more epistemological or even ontological senses the opposition 
doesn’t seem firm.

But maybe what I’m really questioning isn’t the “pure principles” vs. 
“empirical principles” so much as “applied philosophy” and “pure philosophy.” 

Peirce discusses something related in “The Basis of Pragmaticism  in the 
Normative Sciences” (chapter 27 in EP emphasis mine).

Two meanings of the term “philosophy” call for our particular notice. The two 
meanings agree in making philosophical knowledge positive, that is, in making 
it a knowledge of things real, in opposition to mathematical knowledge, which 
is a knowledge of the consequences of arbitrary hypotheses; and they further 
agree in making philosophical truth extremely general. But in other respects 
they differ as widely as they well could. For one of them, which is better 
entitled (except by usage) to being distinguished as philosophia prima than is 
ontology, embraces all that positive science which rests upon familiar 
experience and does not search out occult or rare phenomena; while the other, 
which has been called philosophia ultima, embraces all that truth which is 
derivable by collating the results of the different special sciences, but which 
is too broad to be perfectly established by any one of them. The former is well 
named by Jeremy Bentham’s term cenoscopy κοινοσκοπι the lookout upon the 
common), the latter goes by the name of synthetic philosophy. Widely different 
as the two sciences are, [they are] frequently confounded and intertangled; and 
when they are distinguished the question is often asked, “Which of these is the 
true philosophy?” as if an appreciation of one necessarily involved a 
depreciation of the other. In the writer’s opinion each is an important study. 
Cenoscopy should be that department of heuretic science which stands next after 
Mathematics, and before Idioscopy, or special science; while Synthetic 
Philosophy, the subject upon which Francis Bacon, Auguste Comte, William 
Whewell, and Herbert Spencer have left us admirable works in their several 
ways, stands at the head of the Retrospective Sciences.

Is this what you’re getting at? In your list from the original post you have 
cenescopy as one division within the science of discovery. I’m not sure where 
you see Kant fitting in here though. I assume it’s the same divide but I’d be 
interested in seeing if you think so. In your list of taxonomy these are 
separated by science of discovery and science of review. However some might see 
applied philosophy more as practical science, your third category. 

To me Kant’s dictim seems more about the divide between mathematics and 
cenoscopy. If so, then does “pure cenoscopy” mean something more mathematical? 

Sorry for my being so confused. Despite my misgivings about Peirce’s project 
here, I do think that keeping the categories separate is useful even if I think 
our inquiry in practice won’t be so neat. For Quine the concern with Kant was 
more epistemological than categorical.

 
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