This line of thought assumes the self is a congruent object. This assumption 
has been explicitly held to be false in multiple universes of discourse, such 
as Psychoanalysis and Buddhism. 

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From: "charles murray" <[email protected]> 
To: "Jeffrey Brian Downard" <[email protected]> 
Cc: "Peirce List" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 8:29:24 AM 
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Topology, the Gamma Graphs, and representations of self 

3 May 2016 
Jeff, all: 
In my March 24 post I expressed interest in your remarks about 
Peirce's mathematics and theory of the self. With a hint from your 
March 29 response I have located what I'm curious about in your post 
dated 4 July 2014 from the De Waal Seminar. You write: 

"My first suggestion is that we start by thinking about the self as a 
relationship between representations. In Euclidean geometry, for 
instance, we say that one figure is congruent with another if we can 
move one around and superimpose it on top of another. The basic ways 
in which figures can be moved in a diagram is by translation, rotation 
and reflection. It turns out that reflection is the fundamental kind 
of symmetry on a Euclidean surface because we can achieve the same 
effect as translation by reflecting over two lines. The same is true 
of rotation (but the lines cross). 

[quotation continued:] Before we introduce any ideas from projective 
geometry, how might we use this geometric notion of reflection to 
think about the symmetries that hold between one representation and 
another representation that is, in some sense, 'congruent' with it? 
Or, if you prefer a weaker relation, how is one representation similar 
to another? In what ways might one representation mirror another?" 

In my rudimentary understanding of reflection as an operation upon 
graphs on a Euclidean surface, certain facts about points on the 
reflected graph necessitate certain facts about points on the 
reflecting graph. For example, given a coordinate system with the 
graph A of a 1-1 function, there is a reflecting graph B such that for 
any point on A specified by the x coordinate _a_ and the y coordinate 
_b_, there is a point on B specified by the x coordinate _b_ and the y 
coordinate _a_. This gives reflection about the graph of the function 
y = x. Graphs of other relations give other reflections, e.g., 
reflections about the x axis, y axis or the origin. 

There are conditions on whether there is a reflection and if so what 
it is like. 

First, there are conditions on the algebraic properties of that which 
is being graphed. It matters whether it is a relation, whether the 
relation is a function, what results from negating the function, or 
negating the function's argument, and whether the function is many to 
one or one to one. 

There are corresponding conditions on graphic representation, which 
include provision for a coordinate system with an x and y axis, their 
intersection at a point of origin, points specifiable by x and y 
coordinates, and the possibility of various symmetries between graphs 
with respect to this system. 

Extending these rudimentary remarks, I suppose reflection _might_ be 
best understood as conditioned by the movement of a point from one 
place to another, represented graphically by having a point on the 
graph maintain its identity through changes in facts about it, such as 
having one or both its coordinates change value from positive to 
negative or vice versa, or having its x coordinate become its y 
coordinate and vice versa. More needs to be said to account for 
preservation of identity through such changes. 

It also seems important to be more careful than I am above in keeping 
straight whether one is speaking of a graph as a legisign or a 
sinsign; it should be recognized that reference to "points" as part of 
a sinsign may be misleading. 

Are we on the same page so far? 

Best, 
Charles 


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