Edwina, as I said before, you’re free to interpret Peirce as you please, and to 
read whatever you please into my posts, or Jon’s, or anyone else’s; if you 
interpret something I said as an attempted “put-down,” that’s none of my 
business. You’re welcome to all of your interpretations. As for me, I feel free 
to ignore any questions or comments on this list that are based solely on your 
interpretations or are not conducive to the further development of Peircean 


It might be useful to somebody if I explain the difference between an 
Existential Graph and a “graphic diagram of the semiosic triad.” The latter I 
take to refer to any of the varieties of three-point or three-spoke diagrams 
where the three points represent sign, object and interpretant, often with the 
labels R, O and I respectively. An Existential Graph of the kind illustrated in 
CP 1.347 is explained by Peirce in the previous paragraph:

[[ In existential graphs, a spot with one tail [—X] represents a quality, a 
spot with two tails [—R—] a dyadic relation. Joining the ends of two tails is 
also a dyadic relation. But you can never by such joining make a graph with 
three tails. ]] A “spot” with three “tails” represents a triadic relation, but 
the “tails” do not represent sign, object and interpretant. The “tails” 
represent what Peirce calls the “blanks” in a rheme, or predicate, and the 
number of tails makes it a monadic, dyadic, triadic, tetradic, pentadic (etc.) 
rheme or rhema. When these “blanks” are filled with subjects, represented in 
the graph by lines of identity connected to the spots, they represent 
propositions. As Peirce says, the relations (monadic, dyadic, triadic or what 
have you) are represented by the spots with their tails, not by the “tails.” 
The “X” and “R” in Peirce’s examples are not relata and the “tails” do not 
represent their relation to something else.


This is barely a beginning of an explanation of EGs, which were Peirce’s main 
“diagrams of thought” from the late 1890s onward and fill many of his 
manuscripts (and letters to Welby), but it should be enough to show how they 
differ from the usual diagrams we see of the R-O-I or S-O-I triad. I call these 
“the usual diagrams” rather than “Peirce’s diagram(s)” because Peirce in fact 
never drew any such diagram, or at least never published one, though he 
published lots of EGs.


I don’t expect this will be of any use to you, Edwina, as it’s “just my 
interpretation” as far as you’re concerned. But there may be others reading 
this, and I hope it’s of some use to them, sketchy though it is.


Gary f.


From: Edwina Taborsky [mailto:tabor...@primus.ca] 
Sent: 17-Sep-16 13:39
To: g...@gnusystems.ca; peirce-l@list.iupui.edu
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's Theory of Thinking


Gary F- please don't attempt to 'put me down'. I've never said one word about 
'the principles which guide my interpretation of Peirce'. [I notice you refer 
to my 'interpretation of Peirce' in quotes'. Why?]. Nor have I ever said a word 
or explained 'my practice' of interpreting Peirce in any way. I interpret him 
exactly as anyone else would - and as you do - with the capacity to read, to 
reason, to analyze. Are you going to deny me such attributes?


Of course I interpret Peircean semiosis such that I conclude that no triad, 
i.e., a Sign, is ever isolate. Such a claim is all through his work, when he 
comments on how Signs connect and become other Signs.....


Your declaration that 'anyone' who looks at the diagram can see that it is NOT 
a diagram - is your interpretation - and quite insulting that you assertively 
declare that 'anyone', i.e., ALL people must see it the way YOU see it. Who 
made you the Authority? You are, like me, someone who reads and interprets 
Peirce - and I assure you, I have no intention of belittling your 
interpretations as based on non-Peircean criteria or 


. I see it as a diagram of the triad - and yes, the 'tails' or Relations can 
thus connect - as he specifically  says, "any greater number of correlates is 
nothing but a compound of triadic relations'. Kindly tell me the vital 
difference between a 'graph' and a 'diagram'. AND - kindly tell me the 
functionality of such connections between tails and the functionality of such 
'compounds of triadic relations'. Well? Apart from quoting the text - what does 
it mean to you? What it means to me - is that dynamic connection of triads.


It is YOU who declare that my interpretation of Peirce is ungrounded in his 
work. I've no idea what 'principles of interpretation' you claim that I use; 
I've never said a word about them. BUT - where do you get the conclusion that I 
say that MY interpretation is right? I've been arguing with Jon for days about 
HIS assertion that HIS interpretations are right - and I've been declaring that 
none of us has that right. All we can say is that 'we interpret the text in 
such and such a way'. You can agree or disagree - but Not One of US has the 
right - as you, now, and Jon, seem to claim, that ONE of them is right. 


As for reaching a consensus - this small community is hardly broad enough to 
make such a claim - and the paucity of participants ensures that no consensus 
is reached.


I've had probably as many years of close attention to Peirce's texts as you 
have - over 40 - and i don't agree that Peirce was 'exact' in his use of terms; 
he developed and evolved his terms.


What name-calling? Would you consider that your telling me that I have 
explained my principles of interpretation [which I haven't] or that i don't pay 
close attention to his text - is 'name-calling'?



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