List:

Per Gary R.'s suggestion, I have changed the thread topic for this
discussion as it goes forward from here.

I am inclined to agree with the comments that I retained below from both
Gary R. and Clark--Peirce was a non-traditional Christian with non-standard
beliefs relative to both intellectuals and the ordinary masses.  CP
6.440-443 (1893) seems like about as comprehensive a summary of his
religious views as we are likely to find.

CSP:  The Christian religion, if it has anything distinctive--and must not
aspire to be the necessary ultimate outcome of every path of religious
progress--is distinguished from other religions by its precept about the
Way of Life. I appeal to the typical Christian to answer out of the
abundance of his spirit, without dictation from priests, whether this be
not so. In the recently discovered book, *The Teaching of the Twelve
Apostles*, which dates from about A.D. 100, we see that, long before the
Apostles' or any other creed was insisted upon, or at all used, the
teaching of the Lord was considered to consist in the doctrine of the Two
Ways--the Way of Life and the Way of Death. This it was that at that date
was regarded as the saving faith--not a lot of metaphysical propositions.
This is what Jesus Christ taught; and to believe in Christ is to believe
what he taught.

CSP:  Now what is this way of life? Again I appeal to the universal
Christian conscience to testify that it is simply love. As far as it is
contracted to a rule of ethics, it is: Love God, and love your neighbour;
"on these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." It may be
regarded in a higher point of view with St. John as the universal
evolutionary formula. But in whatever light it be regarded or in whatever
direction developed, the belief in the law of love is the Christian faith.

CSP:  "Oh," but it may be said, "that is not distinctive of Christianity!
That very idea was anticipated by the early Egyptians, by the Stoics, by
the Buddhists, and by Confucius." So it was; nor can the not insignificant
difference between the negative and the positive precept be properly
estimated as sufficient for a discrimination between religions. Christians
may, indeed, claim that Christianity possesses that earmark of divine
truth--namely, that it was anticipated from primitive ages. The higher a
religion the more catholic.

CSP:  Man's highest developments are social; and religion, though it begins
in a seminal individual inspiration, only comes to full flower in a great
church coextensive with a civilization. This is true of every religion, but
supereminently so of the religion of love. Its ideal is that the whole
world shall be united in the bond of a common love of God accomplished by
each man's loving his neighbour. Without a church, the religion of love can
have but a rudimentary existence; and a narrow, little exclusive church is
almost worse than none. A great catholic church is wanted.


I also share Clark's interest in learning more, if possible, about what
Peirce thought regarding the divinity Jesus.  The only published comment on
it that I could find is CP 6.538 (c.1901).

CSP:  I do not assent to the contention of many theologians that the
miracles of Jesus can properly convince a modern man of the divinity of
Jesus. On the contrary, all the evidence which can now be presented for
them is quite insufficient, unless the general divinity of the Christian
religion be assumed. The evidence which may have been overwhelming for eye
witnesses and persons near them is of a very different and inferior
character to that which may weigh with a modern Christian.


Peirce included a similar remark in an early draft of "A Neglected
Argument," as found in manuscript R 842 (1908).

CSP:  As for the New Testament miracles, I admit that, unless one is first
satisfied that Jesus was in some peculiar sense a Divine Person, in which
case there can be nothing unlikely in his working miracles, the evidence is
not sufficient that they were really such events as the writers of the
Gospels evidently took them to be.


Someone who already believes Jesus to be divine will also readily believe
that he performed miracles, but the reports of the latter are not going to
convince someone of the former.  Unfortunately, Peirce does not tell us in
either of these passages whether he himself believed Jesus to be divine.
He did say, as quoted above, that "to believe in Christ is to believe what
he taught"; and the Gospel writers--his favorite, John, in
particular--claimed that Jesus taught that he was divine; but that is
hardly conclusive for discerning Peirce's own view of the matter.

Regards,

Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman
www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt

On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Clark Goble <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Oct 29, 2016, at 9:55 PM, Gary Richmond <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Be that as it may, if we are to have a list discussion on this religious
> topic I would hope that it would center on (1) whether or not Peirce was in
> fact a Christian (my own view is that he was) and, if so, (2) what sort of
> a Christian he was (as I've already commented in another thread, I think
> that he was a non-traditional Christian--he once referred to his views as
> buddheo-Christian, but that, I believe, should be taken in context).
>
> Relative to his main contemporaries whether of the intellectual class or
> the ‘folk’ he seemed to have non-standard beliefs. I confess that it’s his
> views on Christ’s embodiment that seem most interesting to me but also not
> really discussed well in the papers I’ve read on his religion.
>
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