Edwina, List: Yes, again, we have very different definitions of "Representamen." Just to clarify--are you saying that in your view, the loud sound *cannot *be treated as the Representamen in *any *semiotic analysis of this scenario? If so, why not?
Thanks, Jon S. On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 5:15 PM, Edwina Taborsky <tabor...@primus.ca> wrote: > I would disagree. The falling of the tree is a full Sign [O-R-I]....with > the actual fall as the Dynamic Interpretant. The wind-taking-down-the-tree > might by a Dynamic Object to the tree...which then reacts by falling [DI]. > > But within the bird, what affects the senses of the bird - is that loud > sound. That is the external Dynamic Object to that situation. The Immediate > Object is whatever sensual data is felt within the bird from that sound. > The Representamen is a process of mediating this sensate data into an > interpretation [II and DI]. > > Edwina > > On Sun 04/02/18 4:08 PM , Jon Alan Schmidt jonalanschm...@gmail.com sent: > > Helmut, List: > > In my view, we can indeed take the loud sound to be the Representamen, as > I initially suggested--noting again that my definition differs > significantly from Edwina's. This leads to a different analysis in which > the Dynamic Object is the falling of the tree that causes the sound, with > the other terms reassigned accordingly. Sign-action is mediation, even > though the Sign itself is indeed the First Correlate of the genuine > triadic relation that has the Object as its Second Correlate and the > Interpretant as its Third Correlate (cf. EP 2:290; 1903). > > Regards, > > Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA > Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman > www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt > >
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