Wittgenstein was making a point about "metaphysical" language for which there was no scientific proof. It is the conclusion of his Tractatus. I think he was suggesting such language is inevitably incapable of grasping what remains a mystery. He knew of course that most speech is not responsive to the rules he helped established and he himself changed. As to your Nietzsche comment in a previous post, I think he must be credited with Wittgenstein for helping pave the way for a philosophy that can, as Peirce seemed to wish, bridge the gap between the scientific and metaphysical. Your own sense of synthesis seems to want to accomplish that.
amazon.com/author/stephenrose On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 5:46 PM, Helmut Raulien <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Supp: He said: "Was sich überhaupt sagen läßt, läßt sich klar sagen; und > wovon man nicht reden kann, darüber muß man schweigen.“ "What can be said > at all, can be said clearly, and what cannot be talked about, must be > silent about". Assuming, that a good philosopher usually does not utter > tautologies, I take this for an inquiry-block. But I guess he just had a > bad day then, but otherwise was a good philosopher too. > John, list, > maybe they just have been angry when saying so? Didn´t Wittgenstein too > say something inquiry-blocking like that once? I vaguely recall that he > said something like: "About (this or that) you must not speak". I don´t > remember, was it about what you cannot define, what you cannot imagine, > what you have not experienced, or whatever. I just remember that when I > read it, I thought: "No, you don´t tell me when to shut up". > Best, helmut > > , 02. Juni 2018 um 23:07 Uhr > *:* "John F Sowa" <[email protected]> > wrote: > On 6/2/2018 3:45 PM, Helmut Raulien wrote: > > some of these dualities (e.g.: Nominalism/universalism, > > semantics/semiotics, linguistic turn/cognitive turn, > > empiricism/metaphysics) are not necessarily antinomies, but may > > be regarded for theses/antitheses, that may merge to syntheses, > > dialectically. Isnt that so? > > The ones that are complementary, not contradictory, can be the > basis for a synthesis. That's true of many of them. But there > is no synthesis of open-mind vs closed-mind. > > A commonality that characterizes Frege, Russell, Carnap, Quine, > and the movements of behaviorism and logical positivism is that > they all blocked the way of inquiry. Each one said, in effect, > > I do not know how to explore the following topics. Therefore, > thou shalt not ask any question or think any thought about them. > > I admit that I learned a lot about logic from them, but I also > learned that their research guidance is toxic to creativity. > > I have a deadline to finish, so I won't be able to say more now. > But the article "Signs, processes, and language games" summarizes > the issues: http://jfsowa.com/pubs/signproc.pdf > > John > > ----------------------------- > PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON > PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to > [email protected] . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L > but to [email protected] with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the > BODY of the message. More at http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce-l/peirce-l.htm > . > > > > > ----------------------------- PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" > or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should > go to [email protected] . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to > PEIRCE-L but to [email protected] with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" > in the BODY of the message. More at http://www.cspeirce.com/ > peirce-l/peirce-l.htm . > > > ----------------------------- > PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON > PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to > [email protected] . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L > but to [email protected] with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the > BODY of the message. More at http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce-l/peirce-l.htm > . > > > > > >
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