List: 'Continuous semiosis' is basic Peirce. His analysis is that the universe is a 'continuous process of Mind' - which functions within the semiosic triad and the three categories.
But I think it's a romantic error to focus on any one of the categories as 'the ultimate answer'. It is important that we CAN separate them and analyze their short-term functionality. The 'mechanical analysis, which focuses only on the discrete entities within Secondness has brought us great empirical results, where we can specifically say that 'this microbe' causes 'that disease'. And certainly, we must acknowledge that we rely on such direct and individual mechanical interactions when we step into a plane. The 'universalist' analysis, which focuses only on the generative force of habit of Thirdness, brings us stability and continuity - but, is blind to both the individual as its own unique identity and also to the actual need to differentiate from these habits, an action which is found only within the individual. The 'chance' analysis, which focuses only on the peripheral randomness of Firstness, brings us the freedom to deviate from habit and from the constraints of the boundaries of Secondness. Peirce was quite clear that his analytic framework - requires all three. After all, semiosis, as a generative force of continuous, even expanding, Mind, cannot even function without being articulated into both the stability-inducing habits of Thirdness and the individual existences of Secondness. And - it also requires the ability to 'unlock' both Thirdness and Secondness - within the role of Firstness. Edwina On Sat 12/01/19 3:46 PM , Martin Kettelhut mkettel...@msn.com sent: Jon and list, I can’t hide my thrill reading your “musings.” Replanting our thinking and behavior in the deeper context of continuous semiosis—recognizing the undifferentiated in difference--allows for “growth” of the sign at a point in human development when none of our critiques, analyses or structures do. Imagine shifting the current conversation from the paradoxes of zero-sum economic policies (focused on discreet possessions) to the more fundamental reality of the continuous environment in which those possessions are claimed. Imagine philosophy--queen of the sciences--which is asphyxiating on individualist logic (by discounting generals, trying to name the smallest chunk of reality, deducing truth from language), instead recognizing the implicate order (Bohm) in any discreet object of attention. Imagine seeing yourself--your identity—no longer as a paradox of determining influences versus free-will autonomy, but instead as both cause and effect of your life. Imagine the experience art no longer as appreciating the distinctness of a work, but as learning how life dances with the infinite determinability of semiotic continuity. Thank you, Jon, for breathing life back into the day! Martin W. Kettelhut - Longmont CO, USA Professional Coach, Doctor of Philosophy, Kashmir Shaivist ListeningIsTheKey.com [1] On Jan 9, 2019, at 10:01 AM, Jon Alan Schmidt wrote: List: I have been musing recently on the well-known remark by Peirce that "just as we say that a body is in motion, and not that motion is in a body, we ought to say that we are in thought, and not that thoughts are in us" (CP 5.289n1, EP 1:42n1; 1868). He also asserted in the same series of articles that "all thought is in signs" (CP 5.253, EP 1:24; 1868), so by substitution we ought to say that our individual (Quasi-)minds are in semiosis, and not that signs are in our individual (Quasi-)minds. As Peirce recognized, despite not having the benefit of Einstein's insights, Zeno's famous paradoxes are dissolved by understanding continuous motion through space-time as a more fundamental reality than discrete positions in space and/or moments in time. We arbitrarily mark the latter to facilitate measurement and calculation for particular purposes, but space is not composed of points and time is not composed of instants. Likewise, I suggest that semiosis is continuous, and we arbitrarily isolate discrete signs--or rather, Instances of Signs--to facilitate analysis for particular purposes. We can say that a Dynamic Object determines a Token of a Type to determine a Dynamic Interpretant in an individual (Quasi-)mind, treating this as an actual event "occurring just when and where it does" (CP 4.537; 1906). Nevertheless, the Type is not composed of its Tokens. Moreover, every Instance contributes to the Sign's Informed Breadth by adding that Token's Dynamic Object; as Peirce put it, "Breadth refers to the Object, which occasions the use of the sign" (R 200:E87; 1908). Nevertheless, this collection could never amount to the Sign's Substantial Breadth, which (I have argued) corresponds to its General Object. In other words, the Sign (as a Type) and its General Object are both continuous, while each Instance (as a Token) and its Dynamic Object (even if it includes multiple items) are both discrete. In fact, it seems to me that a necessary condition for a Token to be an Instance of a Type is that the Token's Dynamic Object must likewise be an instantiation of the Type's General Object. When I pick something up and say out loud, "This is a vase," the word "vase" that I pronounce is an actual constituent of the real continuum of all potential Tokens of the corresponding Type, which could be in any spoken or written language or other Sign System; and I am asserting that what I now hold in my hands is an actual constituent of the real continuum of all potential vases. 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