Edwina:

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Facts are facts.
Scientific realism is what it is.


Cheers

Jerry

> On May 28, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Edwina Taborsky <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Jerry, list
> 
> The statement is true, if one considers that the map is not just a collection 
> of atoms, not just a collection of chemical molecules - despite your 
> predilection for so defining the world -  but is instead  a semiosic entity, 
> composed of a triadic set of correlations/relations which relate and provide 
> meaning to the physical components; i.e., semiosically define these 'moles' 
> as 'a map.
> 
> Edwina
> 
>  
> 
> On Tue 28/05/19 1:59 PM , Jerry LR Chandler [email protected] sent:
> 
> Jon, List:
> 
> A bit of nit-picking below, particularly in light of the organic chemistry 
> /bedrock claim.
> 
>> On May 27, 2019, at 4:20 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt < [email protected] 
>> <javascript:top.opencompose('[email protected]','','','')>> wrote:
>> 
>> Suppose, then, that an absolutely correct and infinitely detailed map of 
>> Governor's Island in New York Harbour be laid down on the ground there.  
>> Then since the map represents the topography and all the features at the 
>> time the map is lying there, the map must show the map itself lying there; 
>> and must so show that map that, in the map of the map, may be seen the map 
>> lying upon it, and on that map of the map of the map may again be seen the 
>> map, with a sufficient microscope and so on,  ad infinitum , that is, down 
>> to a mathematical point which will be nothing but the map of itself and the 
>> same will be true with every map of its own environment, unless it be 
>> ring-shaped; and it is much the same with any book whose last word is  
>> Finis. 
> 
> The phrase 
>> "with a sufficient microscope and so on, ad infinitum, that is, down to a 
>> mathematical point "
> is false if one considers that the map is a physical object, composed from 
> atoms of finite scale. The individual molecules of the physical map are 
> finite in scale and thus the extension can be extended below the atomic 
> scale. In this instance, it appears that CSP failed to consider the meaning 
> of Avogadro’s number.  
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
> 
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