Gary, List,
I think, that the quote by Ghandi: "Gandhi, in commenting on the Gita, says ‘If we wish to give up sin, we should give up virtue too.", is as false as Adorno claiming that there is no right life within the false one ("Minima Moralia"). To focus on higher wisdom alone solves no problems, because the problems are mostly petty ones, not handleable with higher wisdom alone. They have to be handled with too-petty means. But these means have to be counterchecked with higher wisdom: May I apply them or not? Virtue is based on values, and values are either instructions to solve a problem, or to avoid a problem-pattern. Problems and their patterns exist. Ignoring them is just getting out of the way, like a coward. It is not wise.
Your onion-picture I like very muchly. The layers of the onion are separated by spatiotemporal scales. To take all of them into account, and to mentally cross and connect them is our sorry plight we are not allowed to avoid. If we do not obey this plight, and just act out of higher wisdom, things like in the Baghavad-Gita happen: In the battle og Kuruksetra, all except Krishna and Arjuna were killed. The oh-so-peaceful Buddhism has lost its virginity in modern times again as it has before too, in the far past, now in Myanmar.
To switch to nowadays, I want to mention the Antifa. Yesterday I have seen a talk show on TV, with a guest from USA invited. It seems, that for Republicans, the Antifa is a big bogeyman. Well, in Germany the Antifa are just groups of quite intelligent young grownups, who are doing something against fascism. They really are paying attention not to become like their counteragents themselves. They mentally cross and compare the onion scales thoroughly, before they take any action. They would never kill people, are not terrorists, mainly write texts, and organize counter-demonstrations against right-wing demonstrations, but rather only shout, not beating people up.
I hope, that Trump will not act like Cesar, and abolish democracy. In this case, a rule will come into the game, which e.g. is part of Germany´s constitution: The right to resist. If unjustice becomes justice, resistance becomes duty. And this duty, sadly, does not exclude the use of violence. Like it or not, in this case, Gandhi and Adorno will be right, but then it is too late. Nobody will care about Gandhi or Adorno, no wisdom, but only weapons speak. This situation has to be avoided.
Best,
Helmut
25. August 2020 um 19:03 Uhr
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This newly revised patch from Turning Signs may be of interest concerning relations between mathematics and experience, in a biosemiotic context. It contains a 3-paragraph Peirce quote plus a number of links to other quotes: http://www.gnusystems.ca/TS/xrp.htm#x23 .
Gary F.
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