John, List, All:

In this post, I will simply respond to the numbered items below rather than
quoting them.

1. I am not aware of any evidence that Peirce ever explicitly *denied *that
illation is essential for deduction or *rejected *the use of the scroll for
that purpose in EGs. The absence of these specific terms in his relatively
sparse writings during the last 34 months of his life does not outweigh
their abundance in his voluminous output over the preceding decades. Again,
my hypothesis is that in June 1911 he merely decided to *simplify *his
presentation of EGs for the uninitiated by omitting the derivation of
negation (oval) from consequence (scroll).

2. The *psychological *process of noticing a difference or distinction in
perception does seem to be more primitive than the *linguistic *process of
verbalizing the inference of *modus ponens*, but as Peirce repeatedly
affirmed, the *logical *relation of negation is absolutely not more
primitive than the *logical *relation of consequence. Moreover, "We do not
derive these notions [universal elementary relations of logic] from
observation, nor by any sense of being opposed, but from our own reason"
(CP 8.352, EP 2:485, 1908).

3. I have repeatedly acknowledged that in classical logic, which is what
Peirce obviously had in mind in 1911, a scroll is indeed equivalent to a
nest of two ovals. Although he anticipated intuitionistic logic in several
remarkable ways, including his explicit statements in R 300 (1908) that
analyzing a consequence as a composite of two negations is erroneous,
unfortunately he did not take the additional steps that would have been
necessary to formalize it. Otherwise, we might today be calling it
synechistic logic instead.

4. According to Peirce, "I have a complete theory of this process [logical
analysis], including its methodeutic, which I base upon my *existential
graphs* which is my *chef d'oeuvre*" (NEM 3:885, 1908). Whether it was
logical analysis or EGs that he considered to be his masterpiece, it is
clear that they are closely linked. In the context of logical analysis, he
repeatedly *defines *"more analytical" as "breaking up inferences into the
greatest possible number of steps" (CP 4.373, 1902). In every single
classical or intuitionistic proof that involves negation, deriving it from
a consequence with "the essence of falsity" as its consequent is
technically a necessary additional step. As Bellucci and Pietarinen rightly
put it, "Taking the idea of negation as primary is philosophically
inaccurate."

5. Peirce was obviously not advocating that we add *unnecessary *steps, and
he generally sought to minimize the number of axioms. For example, he
eagerly embraced non-Euclidean geometry as demonstrating that the parallel
postulate is not essential for a consistent system. I believe that he
likewise would have endorsed intuitionistic logic as demonstrating that
excluded middle and its corollaries are not essential for a consistent
system, had he managed to work out the details himself--or had he lived to
see Brouwer and Heyting do so, despite undoubtedly disagreeing with them
about the philosophical motivations. In that sense, non-Euclidean geometry
is more analytical than Euclidean geometry and intuitionistic logic is more
analytical than classical logic, because in each case the former requires
an additional postulate/axiom for certain proofs--effectively, an
additional step that is *presupposed *by the latter.

6. According to his own persistent testimony, Peirce was not terribly
interested in improving the efficiency of proof procedures, and the
expression "dumping the scroll" is frankly both crude and misleading.

This exchange seems like a good summary of our different positions that
result from our different purposes, so hopefully we can leave it at that.

Regards,

Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian
www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:38 PM John F. Sowa <[email protected]> wrote:

> Jon, List,
>
> A few more points:
>
> 1. The quotations you cited are from a time when Peirce still thought that
> a sign of illation was important for deduction.  Note that in R670, he says
> that the EGs have just three syntactic features:  a line  of identity, a
> spot for a rheme and a shaded area for negation.  The scroll is
> "equivalent" to a nest of two negations.  It is not a primitive feature.
> In L231 and the later MSS, he did not draw a scroll or use the word.
>
> 2. When I wrote (in slide 10) that an inference was required for negation,
> I meant a "process of inference", not a "special sign for inference".  But
> I admit that I should have been more precise:  A negation results from an
> observation of a difference or distinction between two perceptions or two
> aspects of a single perception.  That observation may be expressed in the
> form "A is not B".  That process is far more primitive than an application
> of modus ponens.
>
> 3. In R670, the word he actually used to compare a scroll to a nest of two
> negations is "equivalent".  Equivalence implies that one can be substituted
> for the other in any context.  Since I wasn't looking at the MS at the
> moment, I said that a scroll is "nothing but" a nest of two negations.
> Equivalence implies that point.  It also implies that a nest of two
> negations is "nothing but" a scroll.  In any case, he did not draw a scroll
> or mention the word in L231 or the later MSS.
>
> 4. The word 'analytical' means "pertaining to analysis".  It's not at all
> obvious what the phrase "more analytical" would mean.  Although Peirce
> stated his "permissions" in different ways over the years, every proof from
> 1897 to the end took exactly the same number of steps.
>
> 5. Notice the proof of the Praeclarum Theorema in egintro.pdf.  That proof
> took exactly 7 steps from a blank to the conclusion.  In the Principia
> Mathematica, Whitehead & Russell took 43 steps, starting from 5 non-obvious
> axioms.  That length does not make their method "more analytical" .  More
> appropriate adjectives would be inefficient, inelegant, awkward, clumsy,
> not recommended... (And by the way, one of the 5 axioms in the 1910 edition
> was redundant,  But nobody noticed that fact until 1926.
>
> 6. The most efficient proof procedures used today, do not depend on a
> special sign of illation or the rule of modus ponens.  In dumping the
> scroll, Peirce was, as usual, ahead of his time.
>
> John
>
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