List: Again, it is false that "all the various scholarly and esteemed arguments for ’the reality of god'" are "ultimately circular and empty" because their premisses do not *assume *their conclusion. Peirce himself states, "As for ... the presupposition of God’s Reality, most of the usually current Arguments in its favour are Logically Valid, as Probable Arguments, however weak some of them are; and the host of Nominalists who deny this are, upon this and much else, led far astray from sound Logic, chiefly by their false Metaphysics" (SWS:282, 1909). In other words, the only rational basis for rejecting their common conclusion is rejecting at least one premiss of each; and as I have acknowledged, that usually comes down to an individual's personal assessment of its *plausibility*.
Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 10:47 AM Edwina Taborsky <[email protected]> wrote: > Helmut, list > > Yes- I’d say the universe is a system - a CAS, complex adaptive system. > Adn my view of its goal is to prevent the dissipation of its energy. > Period. No perfect final state! To achieve this energy-retention, I > consider that the universe becomes more diverse and complex. > > I also consider the universe ‘rational’ which means logical and focused on > enveloping habits of organization of matter [via Mind] and networking with > other forms of matter. All- to prevent entropy. As such - I refer to > Peirce’s analysis of the universe as rational, and the role of > Mind-as-Matter.. > > As for whether or not there is a ‘god’ aka, an agential force - since > that’s a belief and totally unprovable, then, as you say - one can either > believe it - or not. It can certainly be discussed - but I find such > discussions also irrelevant. ..and all the various scholarly and esteemed > arguments for ’the reality of god ‘ - interesting but ultimately circular > and empty. > > Edwina >
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