Just sending to my Dear peirceans. From: pachito_profes...@hotmail.com To: jawb...@att.net Subject: RE: Dangerous Method Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:22:07 -0300
Dr. Awbrey, Your rememberence is marvellous. In jacques Lacan's writtings there is an interesting paper about a tale by Edgar Allan Poe: The Purloined Letter is the name of this tale. And Lacan's famous seminar is about it. In this tale the letter is seen as a kind of "Significant" that "slips" "over" many "meanings". Ok. Let's forget for a while that "Significant" and "meaning" are Saussure's terms. In Lacan, the letter is the frontier between an instance called "Simbolic" and another called "Real". Well, that is the point. what is real? (terra incognita). What is "simbolic" for Lacan? Nothing but social and cultural-anthropologic representations. And there is a third instance called "Imaginary" = Individual representations. Real is "Object" for Peirce. But not a tangible thing or things as everybody knows. So, let me explain that the 3 instances of Lacan aren't they the 3 peircean cathegories. The Letter is Representamen, The Real is Object (ever in fugue, in a certain measure) and Interpretant varies and multiplies in individual minds. But there is much more to be said. best regards Ernesto Pachito. > Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:48:07 -0500 > From: jawb...@att.net > To: PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU > CC: ari...@stderr.org; inqu...@stderr.org > Subject: Re: Dangerous Method > > Peircers, > > I haven't had a chance to hunt down the passages that came to mind, > but it happens that I was currently reviewing a favorite text from > Peirce that falls into roughly the same ballpark, at least it does > within the play on my own field of dreams. At any rate, I found it > worth the while to blog a choice bit of it for further reflection: > > http://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2012/02/22/ouch%E2%9D%A2/ > > Regards, > > Jon > > Jon Awbrey wrote: > > EC = Ernesto Cultura > > > > EC: Dear List, without pretension. > > I hope you like this: https://www.createspace.com/3788010 > > It is on Object (Peirce), and Das Ding (Freud, etc. ...) > > obvious relationship. I also wrote this (2002) about Peirce > > and Chinese concept of Tao https://www.createspace.com/3798955 > > I will search for this book of John Muller. > > Thanks, Ernesto (Brazil) > > > > Ernesto, > > > > Thanks, noted for comment later, but I'll have to do some searching first > > before I can find the passages in Peirce and Freud that it brings to mind. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jon > > -- > > academia: http://independent.academia.edu/JonAwbrey > inquiry list: http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/ > mwb: http://www.mywikibiz.com/Directory:Jon_Awbrey > oeiswiki: http://www.oeis.org/wiki/User:Jon_Awbrey > word press blog 1: http://jonawbrey.wordpress.com/ > word press blog 2: http://inquiryintoinquiry.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the PEIRCE-L > listserv. To remove yourself from this list, send a message to > lists...@listserv.iupui.edu with the line "SIGNOFF PEIRCE-L" in the body of > the message. To post a message to the list, send it to > PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the PEIRCE-L listserv. To remove yourself from this list, send a message to lists...@listserv.iupui.edu with the line "SIGNOFF PEIRCE-L" in the body of the message. To post a message to the list, send it to PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU