Leo, Jon, List, * Although there's a great deal more to be said about the relations of ethics, esthetic (Peirce's spelling for the theoretical science), and logic as semeiotic, a quick and dirty response to your comment that "It's interesting that logic depends upon ethics and, in turn, aesthetics when dependence is itself a logical relation" is that (as previously discussed on the list in a related context) all the sciences of discovery--that is, all the pure or theoretical sciences--preceding logic as semeiotic (logica docens) in Peirce's classification of the sciences, all these sciences quasi-necessary employ a logica utens (the ordinary logic of any normal thinking person). These sciences are, of course, theoretical mathematics, phenomenology, esthetics and ethics. Once a logica docens is developed, however, it may be employed *retrospectively*, as it were, in consideration of the sciences preceding it. * For my own part, I tend--as perhaps Jon does as well--to see esthetic/ethics/logic as semeiotic as being in genuine tricategorial relation so that they *inform* each other in interesting ways. Trichotomic vector theory, then, does not demand that one necessarily always follow the order: 1ns (esthetic), then 2ns (ethics), then 3ns (logic). One may also look at the three involutionally (logic involves ethics which, in turn, involves esthetic) or, even, according to the vector of representation (logic shows esthetic to be in that particular relation to ethics which Peirce holds them to be in). But only a very few scholars have taken up tricategorial vector relations. Indeed, R. J. Parmentier and I are the only folk I know of who have published work on possible paths of movement (vectors) through a genuine trichotomic relation which does *not* follow the Hegelian order: 1ns then 2ns then 3ns. Indeed, with a few exceptions, there appears at present to be relatively little interest in Peirce's categories generally speaking. Given the way they pervade his scientific and philosophical work, and considering how highly he valued their discovery, this has always struck me as quite odd. * Best, Gary
Gary Richmond Philosophy and Critical Thinking Communication Studies LaGuardia College of the City University of New York E202-O 718 482-5700 *** *** *** *** >>> Leo 03/27/12 4:23 AM >>> Nice. It's interesting that logic depends upon ethics and, in turn, aesthetics when dependence is itself a logical relation. Rather hard to get one's head around. On 3/26/2012 9:48 PM, Jon Awbrey wrote: > Peircers, > > I found the figure I used to draw to explain that > "pragmatic ordering of the normative sciences" -- > > Re: The Pragmatic Cosmos > At: http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-October/000879.html > > o-------------------------------------------------o > | | > | o | > | / \ | > | / \ | > | / \ | > | o-------o | > | /| Logic |\ | > | / | | \ | > | / | | \ | > | o---------------o | > | /| | Ethic | |\ | > | / | | | | \ | > | / | | | | \ | > | o-----------------------o | > | /| | Aesthetic | |\ | > | / | | | | | | \ | > | / | | | | | | \ | > | o---o---o---o-------o---o---o---o | > | | > o-------------------------------------------------o > Figure 1. The Pragmatic Cosmos > > Here is the Figure that goes with this description of the Pragmatic > Cosmos, > or the pragmatically ordered normative sciences: Aesthetics, Ethics, and > Logic. The arrangement is best viewed as a planar projection of a solid > geometric configuration, as three cylinders on concentric circular bases, > all subtending an overarching cone. This way of viewing the situation > brings into focus the two independent or orthogonal order relations > that exist among the normative sciences. In regard to their bases, > logic is a special case of ethics and aesthetics, and ethics is > a special case of aesthetics, understanding these concepts in > their broadest senses. In respect of their altitudes, logic > exercises a critical perspective on ethics and aesthetics, > and ethics exercises a critical perspective on aesthetics. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the PEIRCE-L listserv. To remove yourself from this list, send a message to lists...@listserv.iupui.edu with the line "SIGNOFF PEIRCE-L" in the body of the message. To post a message to the list, send it to PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the PEIRCE-L listserv. To remove yourself from this list, send a message to lists...@listserv.iupui.edu with the line "SIGNOFF PEIRCE-L" in the body of the message. To post a message to the list, send it to PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
