hmmm....bapak2 sekalian jg yaa komennya podo bae..yaaa ngemengin pelaut juga,bukan bahas materi postingannya bung momod...mari kita lihat reply selanjutnya... To be continued...
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 7:21 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > > > Well...You maybe right man..but not at all the seaman talk like that.. > As we know some of our seaman are professional it is depend on > individually. Sometimes need to be relax and joke so just let them enjoy it > n if you blame them it's seem that you are only the right one but in fact > you just human being...so in this case why don't we try tobe a wise than > always given negative comment to the seaman who has made it, so my > suggestion is just simple thing if you know than answer,explain it directly > to the point N I'm sure it is helpful for milling list member than blaming > or insulting....° • · ♥·♡ τнäиκ чöü ♥·♡ · • ° salam pelaut Indonesi > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® > > -----Original Message----- > From: akhmad syukri <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 11:53:26 > To: [email protected]<[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [pelaut] STS : Beware of LOIs > > You are absolutely right Pak Toha > Our Seaman are fond of wasting time by talking about useless matters > Rather than talking about science, knowledge and valuable > information/issues for improving career as Seaman > > So, How we can improve ? > > even some lecturers in class of seaman short courses training > also do the same useless talk > They spend the lesson session time only merely talking about FEMALE,NIGHT > CLUB,DRINK,etc. > > So, No wonder ..... > > > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 9:42 AM > Subject: Re: [pelaut] STS : Beware of LOIs > > These kind of messages being posted by pak Boyke are very important to the > seafarers but surprisingly its very rare or even none of fellow seafarers > are showing their interest to the subject. We don't see any comment nor > response to the same. Only when somebody posting a less important topics > then our fellow seafarers quickly responding to the same one after another > and sadly some responded in negative ways, I.e. full of hatred, prejudice, > under estimating others, showing of selfmight, boasting etc. In order for > us to promote Indonesian Seafarers in international market as well as to > gain respect from our competitors, foreign seafarers, I think our seafarers > should empower themselves with not only seamenship knowledges but also with > gentle behaviour as an respectable officer. Bitching around on the milling > list, degrading people, unnecessary debating are not a gentleman > officer's attitude. (My only 5 cents opinion) > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung > Teruuusss...! > > -----Original Message----- > From: b budiman <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 23:51:55 > To: Milis Pelaut<[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: [pelaut] STS : Beware of LOIs > > > The OnlineSTS team has issuedthe following warning about theissuing of > LOIs.Before conducting an STS operation, someservice providers issue > letters of indemnities(LOIs) to the Masters of the vessels andrequest that > they should be signed on behalf ofthe owner and prior to the commencement > ofan STS operation. Following several contacts, as well asdiscussions with > P&I clubs, the followingprocedure is recommended to be adopted bythe > shipowners as a standard policy.1) Masters/managers should avoid signing > LOI’s given by STS service providers.2) If the STS service provider > insists, then the P&I club should be immediately informed and consulted. It > is of utmost importance that the P&I clubshould be made awareof the > LOI,otherwise, the ownermay not be covered in case of anincident.3)Masters/ > managersshould only sign theLOI, incorporating anysuggestions from theirP&I > club.Managers should beable to provideevidence, such as emailcommunication, > withSTS service > providers, supporting theirrejection of signing the LOI’s, according > toStep 1 above, as this evidence is highlyessential for the P&I clubs. > Indeed, the signing of LOIs without priorconsultation with their P&I club > might resultin conflict with managers’ coverage.Furthermore, in some LOIs, > contractualduties with reference to the third partyindemnity are included, > which appear to beout of the scope of the P&I coverage, asagreed with the > shipowner.STS service providers may accept partialliability on condition > that the shipownerprovides evidence that the incident occurreddue to gross > negligence by the provider/POAC (person in overall advisory control) etc.In > this case the owner bears the burden ofproof.It should be noted that P&I > clubs understandthe commercial implications and timeconstraints in STS > operations and endeavourto support their clients provided that they > havebeen fully informed in advance, OnlineSTSconcluded. > ==== fm tanker operator march 2012 ======== > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > 1. 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