Louis Proyect wrote:

> Actually, I can tell you exactly how things became personalized here.

I have to disagree.  I think that most of the antagonistic behavior preceded
your note.  In fact, I think that the tone [but not the content] of most of the
exchanges were pretty predictable.  I mean you can usually guess who will side
with whom.

> I cc'd PEN-L with a letter that I wrote to the Solidarity national office. I
> stated that I was disgusted by the appearance of a deeply polemical attack
> on an author who had died only a few months ago and who could not reply. If
> it is out of bounds to make such points on PEN-L, I will unsub right now.

The note was not out of bounds.

>
> Frankly, I was happy to be off PEN-L and concentrate on my own list which
> gets 7,000 visits a week, more readers I suspect than all of those print
> journals put together. I only resubbed because Michael Perelman said that
> some people complained that I had left.

Which is true.

> After my letter to Solidarity was posted here, I began a series of articles
> dealing with the politics of Wood/Brenner. The politics. Period. It
> wouldn't have made any difference if the subject heading was different.
> People would have still taken the tack they did, which is about how I have
> an "enemy's list" like Richard Nixon. After hearing this the 35th time, I
> begin to get sarcastic. If Michael Perelman was interested in civil
> discussion, he would have nipped that crap in the bud.

You are correct.  I have a bad heel spur, which I have been having treated by
an acupuncturist.  By the time, I returned, it was in full force.

>
> In any case, I might be out of here in a while anyhow because I am tired of
> the baiting and the hostility myself. If Michael Perelman could make up his
> mind about what kind of list he wanted, a lot of these troubles would be
> avoided.

I wish you were correct.

> Right now, PEN-L is a battleground just like LBO-Talk. The same
> people antagonizing each other and the same dialog of the deaf and the
> dumb. I prefer my own list and lists like it, where there is at least a
> consensus about the goals. Who needs to fight with people that I wouldn't
> spend five minutes talking to in real life.
>
> Louis Proyect
> Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org

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