Doug Henwood asks in reply to one of my earlier posts: "if "we" (the Good
Guys) have virtually no influence over national states, how can we have any
over these megastates [EU, UN, etc.], whose terrain is highly technical and
abstract to most people?"
I don't agree that "we" have virtually no influence over nation states (I'm
not sure who the "Good Guys" are anyway). Progressive forces have curbed
capitalist excesses through the state from the advent of capitalism.
Undoubtedly, these restrictions and amendments have not been to the extent
that most progressives would like. As for megastates -- I'd rather call them
quasi-states or minor states -- I'm not ready to assign labor and
environmental side agreements to NAFTA, weak as they may be, to being the
outcome of the dictates or largess of corporate capital. Just maybe, labor and
environmental movements had some little role in securing those small gains.
Ditto for the extension of democratic institutions (again in underdeveloped
form) to the supranational level in the EU. The UN system for all the excesses
of the IMF and World Bank has done many things to enhance social provisioning
at the global level.
The difference between Doug and myself probably hinges on paradigm differences
on the state. Rather than a Marxist perspective, I take an institutionalist
approach that sees the state as a dichotomy: the state has both integrative
and repressive functions. That is, the state both promotes the provisioning of
society through the supply of collective goods and uses its power to further
the interests of one class over another in a struggle over the economic
surplus. Simultaneously, the state is both welfare state and warfare state. So
while I'm not always or frequently enamoured of the state's actions, I'm not
permanently pessimistic about its potential to do "good", ie progressive
things. As for fledgling supranational states, I see them as quasi-states that
are an opportunity to be used by progressive forces rather than to be ignored.
In an evolutionary role, they are currently a thin of the wedge for
progressive social movements at the global level (along with trans-border
non-governmental social movements).
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re: economic strategy and the state
mcclintockbrent%faculty%Carthage Wed, 23 Mar 1994 09:45:07 -0800
- economic strategy and the state Martin Hart-Landsberg
- Re: economic strategy and the state Doug Henwood
- Re: economic strategy and the state Doug Henwood
- Re: economic strategy and the state Jim Devine
- Re: economic strategy and the state Jim Devine
- re: economic strategy and the state mcclintockbrent%faculty%Carthage
- re: economic strategy and the state mcclintockbrent%faculty%Carthage
- re: economic strategy and the state Doug Henwood
- re: economic strategy and the state Doug Henwood
- re: economic strategy and the state mcclintockbrent%faculty%Carthage
- re: economic strategy and the state mcclintockbrent%faculty%Carthage
- re: economic strategy and the state Jim Devine
- re: economic strategy and the state Jim Devine
- re: economic strategy and the state Doug Henwood
- re: economic strategy and the state Doug Henwood
- Economic strategy and the state Trond Andresen
- Economic strategy and the state Trond Andresen
- re: Economic strategy and the state mcclintockbrent%faculty%Carthage
- re: Economic strategy and the state mcclintockbrent%faculty%Carthage
