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> FROM LA JORNADA, Translated by Commission of Information
> National Commission for Democracy in Mexico

>    To Hermann Bellinhausen, reporter, and Gloria Munoz Ramirez, San Pedro
>    de Michoacan, Chiapas., 10 de febrero . "They are deceiving us. They
>    are making time to attack us during the dry season, in hunger
>    times. What follows, if it's not stop by anybody, is guerrilla
>    warfare''. Subcomandante Marcos says.
>
>    The morning of February 9, the army leader introduced himself
>    to these reporters, who had gone to the town of Guadalupe Tepeyac
>    searching for an interview. "Today there are no interviews. If you
>    want to we can talk for a while, but I already promissed the
>    interview to another media for next week''.
>
>    Subcomandante Marcos looks calm, thoughtful. Accompanied by
>    Mayor Moises, for a change. Without hiding the tiredness that shows
>    in his eyes through the ski mask, he is sceptical about the
>    possibilities of a quick dialogue with the government.
>
>    The town looks calm. The daily life of the families continues.
>    The news is that the peacocks got loose and the dogs went after
>    them through the whole town and pulled their fancy feathers
>    from their tails.  The swings from the school creak as half
>    a dozen little girls play there . Nobody knows what comes next,
>    but Marcos is worried from the government signals they have
>    received.
>
>    "They tried to threaten us with annihilation, but I already sent the
>    message that they can proceed, that to surrender is not within
>    our plans."
>
>    The day before, at noon, representatives of the National Commission
>    for Intermediation (CONAI) visited the town, and in the evening a
>    new message from the President arrived. Marcos was not in the
>    area. He arrived precisely to know the messages from the government.
>     As much as we insisted, he refuses to reveal the content of the
>     talks. His theme is about something else. He persists in talking
>    about guerrilla struggle and the cost it carries for the indigenous
>    people and for the whole country. "Once by themselves, the guerrilla
>    forces have their own autonomy and we are getting ready for that,
>    because that lasts for a long time. They are taking us to a long
>    term armed resistance and to weaken us gradually, we'll see
>    what happens."
>
>    We understand that  February 8 CONAI and the government envoy
>    insisted with the Zapatista leadership about the convenience to
>    reinitiate the dialogue, as they insisted on the political willingness
>    of the  President. The police attacks on two alledgelly Zapatista
>    homes had already started, as we would later learn. Here, at least
>    for what we could tell, nobody knows anything.
>
>    During this brief talk, Marcos insists that they are ready to reinitiate
>    the dialogue, but he says,  "I don't which way''. The conversation is
>    with pauses and long silences. Marcos walks from one place to
>    another on the grass; sometimes it seems that he is about to leave,
>    and as he is accustomed to do it, without goodbyes, clasping hands
>    on his back, smoking.
>
>    He carries a newspaper in his hands, which makes him comment: "The
>    speech of Zedillo in Queretaro made Robledo and the landowners
>    more belligerant and makes more difficult the next meeting (with
>    the government), not as much for the lack of complying with the
>    agreements in Tabasco and Veracruz, but indirectly because of the
>    situation in Chiapas. I think that they are thinking of breaking the
>    dialogue and have ready the military operative''.
>
>    And he comes back to the idea that seems to obsess him: "We are not
>    going to attack, but if they do it... bye''.
>
>    He turns to Mayor Moises and tells him, as if we were not present
>    and as if they refered to something they had been talking about:
>    "With the threath we are not going to sit down (to dialogue). The
>    government better understand that with threaths we are not going
>    to sit down . They think we are desperate and don't take into account
>    that we are prepared for this,  "or what, Moi?" At that moment they
>    make us understand that they are leaving. "One last question," we say.
>
>    -"What next?-If they are lying to us and attack, I believe that the
>    people would understand us and are going to react. They (the people)
>    are the only ones who can stop what is coming. Either way, we are
>    going to be in the mountains resisting."
>
>    Marcos and Moises say goodbye. "Well, now that you got your
>    interview at least write that we are going to win "Right?, that
>    what we say is, just like that: that we are going to win'."
>
>
>
>    "La Jornada", February 11, 1995
>
     I shortened the following but leftnews source can give complete text.

>    February 2, 1995
>
>    Confidential and secret.
>
>    To: Esteban Moctezuma Barragan
>    Secretario de Gobernacion (Secretary of State)
>    Mexico.
>
>    From: Subcomandante Insurgente Marcos.
>    Ejercito Zapatista de Liberacion Nacional.
>    Cuartel General. Montanas del Sureste Mexicano, Chiapas, Mexico.
>
>    Senor:
>
>    A few hours ago I received the communique from the Secretary of
>    State reasserting your willingness to dialogue. In that communique,
>    there is an absurd reference to an absurd declaration by the
>    usurper Robledo Rincon. I do not know if the Secretary of State is
>    now spokesman for the misgovernment of the state of Chiapas, but
>    that is not the point. Only that it increases our distrust of your true
>    intentions in looking for a dialogue. From other sources I have been
>    inform of the ultimatum that you allow yourself to direct to the EZLN
>    about the supposeddly 'strongly armed'  Zapatista military posts in
>    the municipality  of San Andres Samach. 'If you don't remove them,
>    they will be displaced by the army' your threath states. I also
>    appreciate the campaign in the media about the alledge advance of
>    our troops in the region of Los Altos. You know very well that the
>    "strongly armed" posts and the "Zapatista troop advancement" in
>    Los Altos is a lie. The only thing that existed was a civilian post
>    to avoid the introduction of weapons, alcohol, and drug trafficking.
>    That was the decision of the civil authorities and not from the
>    EZLN. The same media give accounts of the people who were in the
>    posts and who DID NOT CARRY WEAPONS. Otherwise, in one of the
>    civilian posts 5 kilos of mariguana were confiscated that was being
>    to the federal troops in the military post of Cathe.
>
>    It is particularly interesting that your ultimatum does not mention
>    any of the violations of the federal troops in the border with
>    Guatemala which go against the 15th of January, 1995, agreement,
>    signed by you and this writer. Violations which have been
>    communicatted to you promptly. 'That's small stuff', you may say,
>    but they contribute to the deteriorating climate of stretching sides.
>    .......
>
>    If this is all a  pretext for a military action, I deplore that Mr.
>    Zedillo's regime had decided to dirty his hands with indigenous
>    blood, and that you be an accomplice of this barbarism.
>
>    That is all.
>
>    Desde las montanas de Sureste Mexicano.
>
>    Subcomandante Insurgente Marcos
>
>    Mexico, Febrero de 1995.
>
>
>
>
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