>Antonio, it would help me to understand your position if you could explain >exactly how pomo helped you to work with the battered women. Michael, I thought I had; but obviously I must not have been clear. So, let me try it again. First, (and this is a point I had not made), my choice of this community as a site for organizing/activism was itself something unusual for a traditional marxist to do. I don't think it is too debatable that traditionally Marxists have privileged labor (I mean workplace organizing and unions) as THE site for activism. I think the choice of the site of struggle is an important political and theoretical question. About this, to avoid misunderstanding, I am NOT proposing that Marxists give up working with the already-constituted, traditional working class sites; only to enlarge the area of activism. This enlargement, i think, was, at least for me, justified by (or should I say, through: for others, it might come in a different way) pomo. To borrow a phrase from Cornel West, Pomo gave me philosophical permission to privilege sites of struggle other than just already-constituted workplace sites. I should add, parenthethically, that there are certain implications of this strategic "opening." First, informed by practice, I have begun to read Marx himself differently--e.g., I have now a very different take on the theory of commodity fetishism (and I am not referring just to the article Jack and I have on that). Second, the enlargement of the sphere of activity means an enlargement for the constituency of the left, and any good politician will tell you that a differently constituted constituency requires a different strategy--and a theoretical arsenal open to difference. The second way in which pomo helped me in the work with battered women (this is the point I thought I was making in the original message) was that it let me accept a different discourse and consciousness as a player in the project (the discourse and consciousness of the battered women themselves, different from the traditional marxist discourse with which I entered the stage) and, then, work to find ways of creating a strategic alliance between this discourse (about the social construction of gender roles) and my discourse (about the social construction of class). That's quite important, but it is also a consequence of the strategy in point 1 above of enlarging the struggle to constituencies other than the traditional labor constituencies. Jim Devine, I think, thinks that all of this opening to other constituencies is already a fait accomplí, and he points to Michael Albert's Z as a vehicle for it. But he points out that Michael Albert is a modernist (he's right. Michael is quite proud of being a modernist: he had a degree in physics before turning to economics). The thing I would point out is that, being a modernist, in order to open up to a variety of sites of struggle, Michael found it necessary to reject Marxism. I don't. A pretty BIG difference, or it should be to someone like Jim. Antonio >-- >Michael Perelman >Economics Department >California State University >Chico, CA 95929 > >Tel. 916-898-5321 >E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Antonio Callari and/or Elisabeth King-Callari 939 Martha Ave Lancaster, PA 17601 Phone 717 397-3228 FAX 717 397-1790 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]