Justin,

        I'm sorry for the very belated response. Referring to quick and 
dirty summary of Pierson's SOCIALISM AFTER COMMUNISM (Pen State U., 1995) 
you ask?

On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, Justin Schwartz wrote:

 According to ypu, Pierson has two main
> objections to market socialism.
> 
> 1) A market socialist economy cannot be a "pure" free market economy but
> will require extensive government regulation to deal with externalities,
> etc. OK, but why does this show that markets do not have a central role as
> regulators of a socialist economy or can be entirely dispensed with in
> favor of planning?
> 
I think the issue here is "central role as regulators of the economy" and 
the very gray area between "market socialists" and advocates of what I 
like to call "Democratically Planned Socialism" who accept a role for 
markets but who emphasize that social-choice and planning will have THE 
central role in regulating the economy though markets will have A role in 
this as well particularly in areas pertaining to individual choice.  This 
group which I am partial too include (in my reading) Pat Devine (with his 
distinction between 
"market exchange" and "market forces" and David Laibman, David Kotz) but 
could also include folds identified "market socialists" such as David 
Schweickart and perhaps yourself? depending on the relative emphasis 
placed on markets as "social regulators".

        As I read it Pierson's point is that socialists cannot make 
markets a "good" in themselves in the way that Hyekian liberals and 
conservative do this.  They cannot really be "market socialists" but only 
socialists who see some value in markets IF THEY SERVE TO FURTHER 
SOCIALIST GOALS.  I see this as corroborating the arguments of 
anti-"market socialists" that it is a mistake for socialists to 
politically refer to their vision as "market-anything". Socialist goals 
are incompatible with "market ideology" (in this sense as an ultimate and 
principled regulator )
and this has to be made clear in the label that we give to our vision.

> 2) Market socialism cannot be achieved by reformist means. Why is this a
> criticism of market socialism rather than reformism?
> 
I don't believe so, as Pierson is a reformist.  The point I believe is 
that in so far as market socialism is viewed as a way out of the problems 
of social-democratic reformist politics it fails.  I think he is right 
that this has been one of the markets socialists principle justifications 
(a practical and feasible socialism that can be currently attractive 
politically and useful now as an organizing vision for socialists).  
Pierson points out that reforms which have to more with expanding the 
power of democratic and collective social choice - over markets (what I 
would call anti-market politics) may be more feasible and better then 
trying to retain market regulation and change property rights.

IN Pen-L Solidarity,

Ron Baiman
Roosevelt U., Chicago




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