Gerald Levy wrote:

>elaine Bernard wrote:
>
>> I fear in these discussion on globalization or on
>> the EU, we tend to construct straw arguments and
>> then put them to the torch with much fast heat
>> and little light, and nothing enduring.  But hey,
>> that's politics.
>
>Whose politics?  It is not in the interests of workers or progressive
>politics to "construct straw arguments and then put them to the torch."
>One might think, rather, that with all that has happened in recent years
>we might have the courage to confront the real issues and engage in
>honest dialogue rather than mimicking the style of bourgeois politicians
>and talk show hosts. Or, is that asking too much?

Really? I thought most of us had been having a pretty serious discussion,
with debaters on all sides making and responding to real points. A very
good PEN-L moment, I thought, but then maybe my standards are too low.

Doug





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