> Date sent: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 23:18:02 -0700 > From: "Gar W. Lipow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [PEN-L:780] Re: Re: adieu boddhi? Me four, though I wouldn't be surprised if I was just a few steps away from being thrown off as well. Boddhi may have been supercilious at times, but so have others, including Mr. Proyect, who is otherwise venerated (well, by some). Reasons why he shouldn't be expelled (hope they don't cause my own dismissal): 1) he has written some really funny stuff; 2) he goes against the grain in pen- l. It is not as if Boddhi is a fascist, or even a standard liberal. I mean do we only want the moralizing sobriety that comes out of Craven? Or the self-satisfied ideas of Devine? Or Henwood's snippets? - ok, they are all great but 3) he got Michael going; 4) he has raised some really serious issues on the possibility of forming non-market societies in a global capitalist economy; whether people who have tasted (or contemplated the possibility) of modernity are willing to go back to a pre-industrial society. I mean it is easy for professors who enjoy all the fruits of modernity to talk about how Indians should live; 5) Sorry, but once a list is created, that list is greater than the moderator; therefore it is anti-democratic for that moderator to take someone off the list. The delete button is a lot more democratic. Just tell Boddhi to cool off a bit, and send less messages. ricardo > Me three. I usually disagree with Boddhi, but I've seen worse -- much > of it on this list. Maybe I'm missing something, but it looks to me > like Boddhi is being thrown off for intellectual disagreement rather > than behavior. At least I don't remember him having to apologize for > personal attacts on anyone, or being warned to change x, y, or z > behavior or risk being expelled. > > Les Schaffer wrote: > > > > >>>>> ">" == Rob Schaap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > >> Just a couple of words on Boddhi's proposed 'resignation'. I > > >> don't think he is disrupting the list, > > > > >> The bloke is clever, articulate, quite brave, and often funny. > > > > i dont know if the input of a lurker counts on this list, but i mostly > > agree with these 2 points of Rob here (not so much on the content of > > what Boddhi says) and yeah, the heat has ratcheted up a couple notches > > recently, but then the d(elete) button works wonders if i grow weary, > > and the responses to him, even though also heated, have good content > > to them. > > > > in any case, if you survey the overall trend of pen-l posts during > > this latest boddhi-war, you find enough variety that clearly the list > > behavior has not been entrained by the individual ratcheting up... > > > > anyway, and this is apropos of nothing, really, but to those that > > recoil at the smugness of bevans nickname: > > > > 'boddhisattva' DOES NOT MEAN 'enlightened one'. > > > > in the buddhist world-view a boddhisattva delays his/her (final) > > enlightenment and works in such a way that all other 'beings' are > > enlightened first. > > > > and don't ask me what THAT means.... > > > > les schaffer > >
