At 09:10 28/10/98 -0500, you wrote:
>MBS suggested that...
>"A more renegade thought is that it is a mistake to zero in on poverty in
>the first place, rather than put the condition of the working class first.
>If the class is well-served, so too will be the poor"
>On the contrary, I find the issues of welfare, minimum wage, homelessness
>very useful politically.

Interesting.  Here the discourses on povery are completely taken over by
owners, operators, and development technocrats.  And the conception is akin
to the World Bank's, whose webpage now sports a "world without poverty"
doo-dad.  I thik we need to stop talkling about it all together here.  Ivian
Illich's _Invention of Poverty_ is light in the darkness in this regard.


Tom Kruse / Casilla 5812 / Cochabamba, Bolivia
Tel/Fax: (591-4) 248242

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