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From: "Lisa & Ian Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 4:26 AM
Subject: [PEN-L:20801] Dematerialization, decarbonation, post-capitalism and
the entropy liberation front


>....to make the larger point that energy
> markets are already planned--just undemocratically.

Care to expand? (seriously)

Mark D H 'last time I hugged a tree it came' Lawrence-Jones

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