>      The stuff ridiculed by Sokal and Bricmont is not just 
>silliness. It is the basis of a good deal of fashionable mysticism 
>and nonsense.  It seems to me that the fact that  "Social 
>Text" could publish the Sokal spoof is not an accident, but a 
>practical result of thsi journal's "critique of science".
>
>--Joseph Green        

I mentioned that I got together with Alan to talk about my concerns with
his defense of "science" against American Indian "creationists". Maybe it
would help if I quoted Alan:

"I'm sorry to say it, but under the influence of postmodernism some very
smart people can fall into some incredibly sloppy thinking, and I want to
give two examples. The first comes from a front-page article in last
Tuesday's New York Times (10/22/96) about the conflict between
archaeologists and some Native American creationists. I don't want to
address here the ethical and legal aspects of this controversy -- who
should control the use of 10,000-year-old human remains -- but only the
epistemic issue. There are at least two competing views on where Native
American populations come from. The scientific consensus, based on
extensive archaeological evidence, is that humans first entered the
Americas from Asia about 10-20,000 years ago, crossing the Bering Strait.
Many Native American creation accounts hold, on the other hand, that native
peoples have always lived in the Americas, ever since their ancestors
emerged onto the surface of the earth from a subterranean world of spirits.
And the Times article observed that many archaeologists, "pulled between
their scientific temperaments and their appreciation for native culture,
.... have been driven close to a postmodern relativism in which science is
just one more belief system." For example, Roger Anyon, a British
archaeologist who has worked for the Zuni people, was quoted as saying that
"Science is just one of many ways of knowing the world. ... [The Zunis'
world view is] just as valid as the archeological viewpoint of what
prehistory is about." 

"Now, perhaps Dr. Anyon was misquoted, but we all have repeatedly heard
assertions of this kind, and I'd like to ask what such assertions could
possibly mean. We have here two mutually incompatible theories. They can't
both be right; they can't both even be approximately right. They could, of
course, both be wrong, but I don't imagine that that's what Dr. Anyon means
by "just as valid". It seems to me that Anyon has quite simply allowed his
political and cultural sympathies to cloud his reasoning. And there's no
justification for that: We can perfectly well remember the victims of a
horrible genocide, and support their descendants' valid political goals,
without endorsing uncritically (or hypocritically) their societies'
traditional creation myths. Moreover, the relativists' stance is extremely
condescending: it treats a complex society as a monolith, obscures the
conflicts within it, and takes its most obscurantist factions as
spokespeople for the whole."

This is just Wall Street Journal crap.


Louis Proyect
(http://www.panix.com/~lnp3/marxism.html)



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