Ken,

"Libertarian" is now linked to the right-wing in much the same way 
"radical" is used to describe right-wingers at the Cato Institute.

Seth Sandronsky 


>Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:19:02 -0600
>From: Ken Hanly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [PEN-L:2259] Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Re: Junk Science
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>As I recall, anarchists have always referred to themselves as 
"libertarians".
>Anarchists of all stripes have traditionally been leftist opponents of 
capitalism
>and Chomsky is himself a type of anarchist libertarian. Only in the 
last few
>decades has the term "libertarian" been associated with right wing 
pro-market
>views such as those of the  anarchist economist  Rothbard or the 
non-anarchist
>Nozick. The libertarian tradition was overwhelmingly leftist in 
orientation.
>Unfortunately, the term is now associated with right-wing views.
>   Cheers, Ken Hanly
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> In a message dated 1/17/99 11:03:04 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>
>> << Subj:         [PEN-L:2233] Re: Fwd: Re: Re: Junk Science
>>  Date:  1/17/99 11:03:04 PM Pacific Standard Time
>>  From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug Henwood)
>>  Sender:        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  Reply-to:      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  To:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>  >For myself, noting and agreeing with the assertion of the  general 
function
>> of
>>  >institutions like MIT in capitalist society and as instruments of 
expanded
>>  >reproduction of that system, a few like Noam Chomsky do slip 
through and
>>  >manage to survive.
>>
>>  It was explained to me once that at MIT, Chomsky is thought of as 
the
>>  Einstein of linguistics, a scientific giant. His politics are 
marginal to
>>  that reputation - just a personality quirk I guess.
>>
>>  Doug >>
>>
>> Yeah Doug, it is amazing what is considered central and what is 
marginalized.
>> I for one, consider some of Chomsky's politics to be an applied 
extension of
>> some of his work in linguistics or at least not contradictory with 
some of his
>> theses in linguistics. Certainly some of his work in linguistics 
guided some
>> of his work on the political economy of the media under 
capitalism--on
>> symbology, on class-interests and paradigms embodied in the rhetoric, 
syntax
>> and loaded language of the media, etc. Also some of Chomsky's 
deconstructing
>> the deconstructionists and some of his stuff on pomo I have seen 
seemed to be
>> guided by some of his work in linguistics.
>>
>> Although I disagree with Chomsky on the term "left libertarian" which 
I
>> believe is an oxymoron, no doubt that he has added richly and 
significantly to
>> the study and documentation of the ugly and varied dynamics, 
instruments and
>> consequences of imperialism and in his case, there is at least one 
example
>> where tenure might protect competence instead of incompetence.
>>
>> Jim
>>
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>>
>> Subject: [PEN-L:2233] Re: Fwd: Re: Re: Junk Science
>> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:50:22 -0500
>> From: Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> >For myself, noting and agreeing with the assertion of the  general 
function
>> of
>> >institutions like MIT in capitalist society and as instruments of 
expanded
>> >reproduction of that system, a few like Noam Chomsky do slip through 
and
>> >manage to survive.
>>
>> It was explained to me once that at MIT, Chomsky is thought of as the
>> Einstein of linguistics, a scientific giant. His politics are 
marginal to
>> that reputation - just a personality quirk I guess.
>>
>> Doug
>
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>
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