louis is 'extremely familiar' with shiva, so he will know that shiva is not a postmodernist, nor a poststructuralist, but third-worldist eco-feminist. Louis Proyect wrote: > I am extremely familiar with Vandana Shiva's ideas and regard > them as inimical to everything that Marx stood for. and, remember this? Mon, 05 Jan 1998 11:20:25 -0500 Louis Proyect ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >My problem with Shiva is her gender essentialism, her romanticism about >India's pre-colonial past, her hypocrisy in leading a very cosmopolitan >life while recommending that everyone else stay at home, and a very >un-nuanced rejection of technology. Just because Monsanto is using biotech >to screw peasants around the world doesn't mean that biotech itself is >always and everywhere a sinister plot by white imperialist men. > >Doug There is just as much--if not more--that can be learned from Vandana Shiva, Jerry Mander and Kirkpatrick Sale as can be learned from Judith Butler. Like it or not, these people are a corrective to the "rural idiocy" thesis that is contained in the Communist Manifesto and that you have alluded to many times favorably. [...] The value-system of communalist peoples is much closer to the communist value system that we seek. The problem is the transition to the material conditions which will allow such a revolution in values to take place. Shiva, Mander and Sale have no concept of such a transition. Mostly what they propose is utopian retreat from the class struggle. [...] Louis Proyect
