In a message dated 7/14/00 5:28:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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<< if so capitalism might even be superior to market socialism.
 
 That is exactly what the Soviet elite eventually concluded and the 
 reason they opted for capitalism. >>


If the conclusion is right, then I'm procapitalist. Pure planning is a 
washout. However, Yoshie does not answer the reasons I gave to think that 
market socialism would be better than capitalism: it would provide material 
adequecy, greater democracy, lack of exploitation, and better working 
conditions than capitalism. 

Yoshie's account of why the Soviet elite gave up on socialism is naive and 
uninformed. I worked on this a good deal and published a paper in Socialist 
Register 1991 that dealt in part with the topic.  She might look there for a 
starter. There is also a lot of good stuff on the topic elsewhere, but I 
don't want to go into it now.The Soviet elite also never gave seroious 
consideration to worker self management as a form of market socialism.

--jks

--jks

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