Max, the list jester, flips into serious mode, waxes afraid and indignant. >>> Max Sawicky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/03/99 11:43AM >>> I was very pleased to see Mr. Henry C.K. Liu's latest pissing and moaning, since it proves definitively that he is incapable of or uninterested in distinguishing between racial slurs and comments directed at his own statements or statements of those he idolizes. This waving the bloody shirt of racism is an injustice to genuine claims and an obstacle to serious discussion. It bespeaks ignorance and reeks of self-righteousness. (((((((((((( Chas: Oh yes, that very important problem in the post-Reaganite white imagination: colored people confusing racism with genuine claims of ...........???, injustice perpetrated on white commentators, playing the race card on Wax and others unfairly. I feel so sorry for you. This is known as blaming the victim. Max is the real victim here, and we keep blaming him. ((((((((((((( Reminds me of the old National Lampoon cover, which headlined, "Buy this magazine, or we'll shoot this dog." A comically transparent attempt at moral blackmail: take my incoherent ravings seriously or you're a racist. (((((((((((((((( Charles: Reminds Bennie of it, but does not match what Henry is doing. Again post-Reaganite plausible denial of white supremacy is what this comment is really. Bennie has absolved himself of making prejudicial commentary. ((((((((((( I am a little surprized to see CB echoing this; I expected better from him. (I'm also afraid his sense of humor is captive to his ideological prejudices.) (((((((((( Charles: Is this Max or Bennie , who is now "surprized" and probably "appalled" to ? Interesting how comedy shades into tragedy , no ? :>)/:>( and he is "afraid" too. Boo hoo. poor thing. But don't worry, your ideological bias prevents you from seeing that my humor is better than yours. So things are still funny, not scary. ((((((((((((( Max: This is an old trick on the left which may yet have some currency on campuses, but doesn't cut any ice with me. I would not be disinterested in moral preachments from those I would regard as exceptional moral examples to the rest of us, but Mr. Liu doesn't qualify. He's too busy trying to buttress his own dubious assertions by reference to the suffering of others, his own people in particular. He complains bitterly of someone making fun of his name, then turns around and does the same thing. (((((((((((( Charles: Is this a joke or serious ? ((((((((((((((( The only racism in the posts is the inference from others that Mao's babbling is some kind of landmark in Chinese literature, or in some way examplary of Chinese intellectual faculties. (((((((((((( Charles: oops. Max sticks his foot in it again. Is this an accident or a mistake that Max keeps committing ? Beltway incompetence ? Barkeley would probably say it might be explained by chaos theory. How exactly is this the "only racism in the posts" , oh wise civil rights hero and philospher ? (((((((((((((((((((((( Max: As to Jim C., who's a serious guy, I'd just like to point out that the fate of imperialism's victims is one thing, and silly arguments regarding it, in which I take an admittedly perverse pleasure, are quite another. One mistaken notion is that serious and honest people cannot disagree on whether Mao was a hero or a beast (or perhaps some of both). This has less to do with bourgeois academia than might be apparent, since plenty of lefts, from soc-dems to super-Trots, have uncomplimentary views of Mao and Stalin. (((((((((((( Charles: This Max thought does not sound smarter than Mao's thought. Charles Brown