>I deny that the Arab slavery and slave trade in the 10th c. was anything like >the European Atlantic Capitalist Enslavement from the mid-15th c. >The structural >relation of the European Capitalist Atlantic Enslavement Industry to >capitalist >production, industry, finance, generalized commodity production and capital >accumulation, merchant capital, etc. is clearly not mirrored by what was going >on in East Africa, the Arab World. How can capitalist plantation agriculture >producing commodities for capitalist industry and integral to large scale >capital accumulation be compared to slavery in the Arab World? > >Mat In their effects on Africa the two trades look to have been very similar. But for the slaves themselves it *mattered* a lot: your life expectancy if you were sold to Arab slavers was about four times your life expectancy if you were sold to European slavers... Brad DeLong
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