Speaking of obscurantist, if secular religions have been a failure, 
why do you repeat this failure by calling for the scientific 
elimination of "alienation, domination, and exploitation"?
> 
> This, of course, is Rousseau's idea of the civic (and secular) religion, 
> seemingly filtered through that old obscurantist, Hegel. I think that 
> secular religions have by and large been a failure. Look at the one closest 
> to Rousseau in history, the secular religion of the French Revolution that 
> began in 1789. Or look at the somewhat Jacobin kinds of Marxism that have 
> morphed into secular religions (usually adulating the Party Leader). Though 
> I doubt that religion will ever go away, since it answers people's basic 
> and un if we want humanity to 
> make progress toward the abolition of domination, exploitation, and 
> alienation, we need to emphasize a scientific style of thinking over the 
> religious one.
> 
> Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~JDevine
> 

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